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Christophe Pettus
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Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode
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Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Laurenz Albe <laurenz.albe@cybertec.at>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Laurenz Albe <laurenz.albe@cybertec.at>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Laurenz Albe <laurenz.albe@cybertec.at>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Jehan-Guillaume de Rorthais <jgdr@dalibo.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Jehan-Guillaume de Rorthais <jgdr@dalibo.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Laurenz Albe <laurenz.albe@cybertec.at>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Laurenz Albe <laurenz.albe@cybertec.at>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Andreas Karlsson <andreas@proxel.se>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Andreas Karlsson <andreas@proxel.se>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Christophe Pettus <xof@thebuild.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Christophe Pettus <xof@thebuild.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Christophe Pettus <xof@thebuild.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Christophe Pettus <xof@thebuild.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Christophe Pettus <xof@thebuild.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Christophe Pettus <xof@thebuild.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Christophe Pettus <xof@thebuild.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Christophe Pettus <xof@thebuild.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode ilmari@ilmari.org (Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker)
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Christophe Pettus <xof@thebuild.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Laurenz Albe <laurenz.albe@cybertec.at>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Laurenz Albe <laurenz.albe@cybertec.at>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Christophe Pettus <xof@thebuild.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Adrien NAYRAT <adrien.nayrat@anayrat.info>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Mark Kirkwood <mark.kirkwood@catalyst.net.nz>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Mark Kirkwood <mark.kirkwood@catalyst.net.nz>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Laurenz Albe <laurenz.albe@cybertec.at>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Laurenz Albe <laurenz.albe@cybertec.at>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Laurenz Albe <laurenz.albe@cybertec.at>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Christophe Pettus <xof@thebuild.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Chapman Flack <chap@anastigmatix.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Christophe Pettus <xof@thebuild.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Martín Marqués <martin@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode "David G. Johnston" <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Martín Marqués <martin@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Christophe Pettus <xof@thebuild.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>


> On Feb 26, 2019, at 09:26, Robert Haas  wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 12:20 PM Fujii Masao  wrote:
>> So, let me clarify the situations;
>> 
>> (1) If backup_label and recovery.signal exist, the recovery starts safely.
>>       This is the normal case of recovery from the base backup.
>> 
>> (2)If backup_label.pending and recovery.signal exist, as described above,
>>       PANIC error happens at the start of recovery. This case can happen
>>       if the operator forgets to rename backup_label.pending, i.e.,
>>       operation mistake. So, after PANIC, the operator needs to fix her or
>>       his mistake (i.e., rename backup_label.pending) and restart
>>       the recovery.
>> 
>> (3) If backup_label.pending exists but recovery.signal doesn't, the server
>>       ignores (or removes) backup_label.pending and do the recovery
>>       starting the pg_control's REDO location. This case can happen if
>>       the server crashes while an exclusive backup is in progress.
>>       So crash-in-the-middle-of-backup doesn't prevent the recovery from
>>       starting in this idea.
> 
> The if-conditions for 1 and 2 appear to be the same, which is confusing.

I believe #1 is when backup_label (no .pending) exists, #2 is when backup_label.pending (with .pending) exists.

At the absolute minimum, this discussion has convinced me that we need to create a wiki page to accurately describe the failure scenarios for both exclusive and non-exclusive backups, and the recovery actions for them.  If it exists already, my search attempts weren't successful.  If it doesn't, I'm happy to start one.
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-- Christophe Pettus
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