Re: Configuring synchronous replication
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Simon Riggs
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Re: Configuring synchronous replication
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1284739229.1733.5104.camel@ebony
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Re: Configuring synchronous replication (Heikki Linnakangas)
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Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Use a latch to make startup process wake
up and replay Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Use a latch to make startup
process wake up and replay David Fetter <david@fetter.org>
Re: Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Use a latch to make startup
process wake up and replay Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Use a latch to make startup
process wake up and replay Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Use a latch to make startup
process wake up and replay Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Use a latch to make startup
process wake up and replay Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Use a latch to make startup
process wake up and replay Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Use a latch to make startup
process wake up and replay Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Use a latch to make startup
process wake up and replay Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Configuring synchronous replication Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Dimitri Fontaine <dfontaine@hi-media.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Dimitri Fontaine <dfontaine@hi-media.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Dimitri Fontaine <dfontaine@hi-media.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Dimitri Fontaine <dfontaine@hi-media.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Thom Brown <thom@linux.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Dimitri Fontaine <dfontaine@hi-media.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Jesper Krogh <jesper@krogh.cc>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Thom Brown <thom@linux.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Thom Brown <thom@linux.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Thom Brown <thom@linux.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Csaba Nagy <ncslists@googlemail.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Csaba Nagy <ncslists@googlemail.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Csaba Nagy <ncslists@googlemail.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous bikeshedding Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous bikeshedding Thom Brown <thom@linux.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous bikeshedding "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous bikeshedding "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Dimitri Fontaine <dfontaine@hi-media.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Yeb Havinga <yebhavinga@gmail.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Dimitri Fontaine <dfontaine@hi-media.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Dimitri Fontaine <dfontaine@hi-media.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Csaba Nagy <ncslists@googlemail.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Dimitri Fontaine <dfontaine@hi-media.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Dimitri Fontaine <dfontaine@hi-media.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Dimitri Fontaine <dfontaine@hi-media.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Dimitri Fontaine <dfontaine@hi-media.com>
Re: Configuring synchronous replication Dimitri Fontaine <dfontaine@hi-media.com>
Re: Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Use a latch to make startup
process wake up and replay Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Use a latch to make startup
process wake up and replay Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
On Fri, 2010-09-17 at 16:09 +0300, Heikki Linnakangas wrote: > >> I don't expect any meaningful differences in terms of performance > >> between any of the discussed options. The big question right now is... > > > > This is the critical point. Politely, I would observe that *You* do not > > think there is a meaningful difference. *I* do, and evidence suggests > > that both Oracle and DRBD think so too. So we differ on what the "big > > question" is here. > > We must be talking about different things again. There's certainly big > differences in the different synchronization levels and configurations, > but I don't expect there to be big performance differences between > patches to implement those levels. Once we got rid of the polling loops, > I expect the network and disk latencies to dominate. So IIUC you seem to agree with * 4 levels of synchronous replication (specified on master) * transaction-controlled replication from the master * sending 3 LSN values back from standby Well, then that pretty much is my patch, except for the parameter UI. Did I misunderstand? We also agree that we need a standby to master protocol change; I used Zoltan's directly and I've had zero problems with it in testing. The only disagreement has been about * the need for standby registration (I understand "want") which seems to boil down to whether we wait for servers that *ought* to be there, but currently aren't. * whether to have wal writer active (I'm happy to add that later in this release, so we get the "recv" option also) * whether we have a parameter for quorum commit > 1 (happy to add later) Not sure if there is debate about whether quorum_commit = 1 is the default. * whether we provide replication_exceptions as core feature or as a plugin The only area of doubt is when we send replies, which you haven't thought about yet. So presumably you've no design-level objection to what I've proposed. Things we all seem to like are * different standbys can offer different sync levels * standby names * a set returning function which tells you current LSNs of all standbys * the rough idea of being able to specify a "service" and have that equate to a more complex config underneath the covers, without needing to have the application know the details - I think we need more details on that before we could say "we agree". So seems like a good days work. -- Simon Riggs www.2ndQuadrant.comPostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Training and Services
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