Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code

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Simon Riggs
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Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code
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Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Robert Haas" <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Hannu Krosing <hannu@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Hannu Krosing <hannu@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Greg Stark <greg.stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Greg Stark <greg.stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Robert Haas" <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Robert Haas" <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Robert Haas" <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Robert Haas" <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Robert Haas" <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Tatsuo Ishii <ishii@postgresql.org>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Dimitri Fontaine <dfontaine@hi-media.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Ron Mayer <rm_pg@cheapcomplexdevices.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Robert Haas" <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Ron Mayer <rm_pg@cheapcomplexdevices.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Robert Haas" <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Pavan Deolasee" <pavan.deolasee@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Pavan Deolasee" <pavan.deolasee@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Robert Haas" <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: Second thoughts Emmanuel Cecchet <manu@frogthinker.org>
Re: Sync Rep: Second thoughts Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: Second thoughts Emmanuel Cecchet <manu@frogthinker.org>
Re: Sync Rep: Second thoughts Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: Second thoughts Emmanuel Cecchet <manu@frogthinker.org>
Re: Sync Rep: Second thoughts Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: Second thoughts Emmanuel Cecchet <manu@asterdata.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Emmanuel Cecchet <manu@frogthinker.org>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Grzegorz Jaskiewicz <gj@pointblue.com.pl>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>

On Wed, 2008-12-10 at 11:52 -0800, Jeff Davis wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-12-10 at 09:48 +0000, Simon Riggs wrote:
> > What is complicated about having the archive on the standby server? 
> > 
> 
> If the storage on the standby fails, you would lose the archive, right?

As well as the standby itself presumably. Either way you need to restart
from a base backup.

> I think there's a use case for having two identical servers, and just
> setting them up to replicate synchronously. Many of these use-cases
> might not even care much about write performance or the duplicity of
> maintaining two copies of the archive. 

Yes, that's what I've said also.

> They might care a lot about PITR
> though, and that would be impossible if you lose the archive.

Agreed, yes we need it as an option.

> Do you see a cost to allowing all of the options listed by Fujii Masao?

I haven't argued in favour of removing any options, so not sure what you
mean. I have asked for an explanation of why certain features are needed
so we can judge whether there is a simpler way of providing everything
required. It may not exist.

-- Simon Riggs           www.2ndQuadrant.comPostgreSQL Training, Services and Support


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