Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code

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Simon Riggs
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Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code
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1228992022.20796.995.camel@hp_dx2400_1
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Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Robert Haas" <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Hannu Krosing <hannu@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Hannu Krosing <hannu@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Greg Stark <greg.stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Greg Stark <greg.stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Robert Haas" <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Robert Haas" <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Robert Haas" <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Robert Haas" <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Robert Haas" <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Tatsuo Ishii <ishii@postgresql.org>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Dimitri Fontaine <dfontaine@hi-media.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Ron Mayer <rm_pg@cheapcomplexdevices.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Robert Haas" <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Ron Mayer <rm_pg@cheapcomplexdevices.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Robert Haas" <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Pavan Deolasee" <pavan.deolasee@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Pavan Deolasee" <pavan.deolasee@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Robert Haas" <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: Second thoughts Emmanuel Cecchet <manu@frogthinker.org>
Re: Sync Rep: Second thoughts Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: Second thoughts Emmanuel Cecchet <manu@frogthinker.org>
Re: Sync Rep: Second thoughts Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: Second thoughts Emmanuel Cecchet <manu@frogthinker.org>
Re: Sync Rep: Second thoughts Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: Second thoughts Emmanuel Cecchet <manu@asterdata.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Emmanuel Cecchet <manu@frogthinker.org>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Grzegorz Jaskiewicz <gj@pointblue.com.pl>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>

On Wed, 2008-12-10 at 15:06 -0500, Aidan Van Dyk wrote:

> Call me think, but I'm confused... In sync rep, there *can't be* any
> catchign up do do... i.e. if the "slave" isn't accepting the WAL the
> master "stops" doing *anything*...

In normal/steady state, yes, you are correct. But there is more...

The simplest way to configure standby would be to freeze the primary
while we setup the standby and then go straight into normal/steady
state. That could mean hours of downtime for large databases, which is
unacceptable in a feature aimed at increasing availability. So we need
to allow the primary to continue working while the standby is setup.
That then creates a log gap between the LSN of the primary and the LSN
of the standby, which must be resolved.

So the catchup occurs during the transient initial phase when standby is
catching up with primary before they continue together in normal/steady
state. 

Most of the architectural discussion over last few months has been about
the need for the initial state and how to handle it. Most of the code
complexity also.

-- Simon Riggs           www.2ndQuadrant.comPostgreSQL Training, Services and Support


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