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Simon Riggs
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Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code
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Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
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Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
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Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
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Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
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Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Robert Haas" <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Hannu Krosing <hannu@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Hannu Krosing <hannu@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Greg Stark <greg.stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Greg Stark <greg.stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Robert Haas" <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Robert Haas" <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Robert Haas" <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Robert Haas" <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Robert Haas" <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Tatsuo Ishii <ishii@postgresql.org>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Dimitri Fontaine <dfontaine@hi-media.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Ron Mayer <rm_pg@cheapcomplexdevices.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Robert Haas" <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Ron Mayer <rm_pg@cheapcomplexdevices.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Robert Haas" <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Pavan Deolasee" <pavan.deolasee@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Pavan Deolasee" <pavan.deolasee@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Robert Haas" <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: Second thoughts Emmanuel Cecchet <manu@frogthinker.org>
Re: Sync Rep: Second thoughts Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: Second thoughts Emmanuel Cecchet <manu@frogthinker.org>
Re: Sync Rep: Second thoughts Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: Second thoughts Emmanuel Cecchet <manu@frogthinker.org>
Re: Sync Rep: Second thoughts Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: Second thoughts Emmanuel Cecchet <manu@asterdata.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Emmanuel Cecchet <manu@frogthinker.org>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Grzegorz Jaskiewicz <gj@pointblue.com.pl>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Sync Rep: First Thoughts on Code "Fujii Masao" <masao.fujii@gmail.com>

On Wed, 2008-12-10 at 14:39 +0200, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:

> In the current form, is there any reason why walreceiver needs to be
> an integrated server process? Couldn't it just be a stand-alone
> program that connects to the primary and writes the received records
> to the right WAL file? The only reason I can see is to reliably kill
> it when the standby server is promoted to primary.

Reasons:

* integration: we have one service we stop and start, not two. We want
one log, one set of commands, one set of parameters etc

* cooperation: if wal receiver is a server process we can reasonably
communicate the current WAL limit via shared memory. That gives us
smooth flow of WAL between receiver and replay (startup process) rather
than a burst of activity each time a file arrives. That helps smooth
performance and minimises failover time. Without this we would need to
retain the concept of archive_timeout on the primary even when
streaming, which is fairly strange.

* code management

Other than that there isn't that much in it...


We've all read the stuff about how other RDBMS come with integrated
replication. We *can* make this integrated, robust and very very easy to
use, yet with flexibility for a variety of purposes.

-- Simon Riggs           www.2ndQuadrant.comPostgreSQL Training, Services and Support


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