Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release

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Noah Misch
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Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release
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20150602054429.GB50317@tornado.leadboat.com
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postpone next week's release Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: postpone next week's release Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: postpone next week's release Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: postpone next week's release "David G. Johnston" <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Restore-reliability mode Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com>
Re: Restore-reliability mode Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Restore-reliability mode Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com>
Re: Restore-reliability mode Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Restore-reliability mode "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: Restore-reliability mode Geoff Winkless <pgsqladmin@geoff.dj>
Re: Restore-reliability mode Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Restore-reliability mode Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com>
Re: Restore-reliability mode Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Restore-reliability mode Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Restore-reliability mode Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Restore-reliability mode Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Restore-reliability mode Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: Restore-reliability mode Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: Restore-reliability mode Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Restore-reliability mode Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com>
Re: Restore-reliability mode Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Stefan Kaltenbrunner <stefan@kaltenbrunner.cc>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [CORE] postpone next week's release "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 12:09:16PM -0400, David Steele wrote:
> On 5/31/15 11:49 AM, Noah Misch wrote:
> > On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 09:51:04PM -0400, David Steele wrote:
> >> Sure - I can write code to do that.  But then why release a beta at all?
> > 
> > It's largely for the benefit of folks planning manual, or otherwise high-cost,
> > testing.  If you budget for just one big test per year, make it a test of
> > beta1.  For inexpensive testing, you may as well ignore beta and test git
> > master daily or weekly.
> 
> I've gotten to the point of (relatively) high-cost coding/testing.  The
> removal of checkpoint_segments and pause_on_recovery are leading to
> refactoring of not only the regressions tests but the actual backup
> code.  9.5 and 8.3 are the only versions that require exceptions in the
> code base.
> 
> I've already done basic testing against 9.5 by disabling certain tests.
>  Now I'm at the point where I need to start modifying code to take new
> 9.5 features/changes into account and make sure the regression tests
> work for 8.3-9.5 with the fewest number of exceptions possible.

Release of beta1 is the cue for that sort of work.

> From the perspective of backup/restore testing, 9.5 has the most changes
> since 9.0.  I'd like to know that the API at least is stable before
> investing the time in new development.

Its API will be as good as pgsql-hackers could make it; beta1 is also a call
for help discovering API problems we overlooked.  Subsequent API changes are
usually reactions to beta test reports.


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