Re: Reviewing freeze map code
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Peter Geoghegan
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Re: Reviewing freeze map code
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Re: Reviewing freeze map code (Andres Freund)
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Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: Reviewing freeze map code Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 11:35 AM, Andres Freund wrote: >> We need a read-only utility which checks that the system is in a correct >> and valid state. There are a few of those which have been built for >> different pieces, I believe, and we really should have one for the >> visibility map, but I don't think it makes sense to imply in any way >> that VACUUM can or should be used for that. > > Meh. This is vacuum behaviour that *has existed* up to this point. You > essentially removed it. Sure, I'm all for adding a verification > tool. But that's just pie in the skie at this point. We have a complex, > data loss threatening feature, which just about nobody can verify at > this point. That's crazy. FWIW, I agree with the general sentiment. Building a stress-testing suite would have been a good idea. In general, testability is a design goal that I'd be willing to give up other things for. -- Peter Geoghegan
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