Обсуждение: I'd like a lightweight alternative to pgAdmin4 ?

Hi
call me oldfashioned but I'd like to have a lightweight alternative to 
pgAdmin4.

pgAdmin3 does in 99% of the time all I have to do with PG, throwing SQL 
at the server and getting some stuff back.
It starts fast, offers multi-window and drag&drop of scripts into the 
editor.

I really do appreciate all the work put into PG and pgAdmin4
but pgAdmin4 is more nice to look at than to work with.

pgAdmin3 sadly doesn't like PG 10, so I'm looking in a dead end.

Is there any other tool to talk with PG that doesn't carry so much bulk?


Regards
Andreas

pgAdmin 4 is allready at V 2.0




Am 09.10.2017 um 13:13 schrieb Francis Fish:
> Try "upgrading" to version 1.2
> 
> 
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> On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Andreas <maps.on@gmx.net 
> <mailto:maps.on@gmx.net>> wrote:
> 
>     Hi
>     call me oldfashioned but I'd like to have a lightweight alternative
>     to pgAdmin4.
> 
>     pgAdmin3 does in 99% of the time all I have to do with PG, throwing
>     SQL at the server and getting some stuff back.
>     It starts fast, offers multi-window and drag&drop of scripts into
>     the editor.
> 
>     I really do appreciate all the work put into PG and pgAdmin4
>     but pgAdmin4 is more nice to look at than to work with.
> 
>     pgAdmin3 sadly doesn't like PG 10, so I'm looking in a dead end.
> 
>     Is there any other tool to talk with PG that doesn't carry so much bulk?
> 
> 
>     Regards
>     Andreas
> 
> 

Am 09.10.2017 um 13:19 schrieb Murtuza Zabuawala:
> On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 2:45 PM, Andreas <maps.on@gmx.net 
> <mailto:maps.on@gmx.net>>wrote:
> 
>     Hi
>     call me oldfashioned but I'd like to have a lightweight alternative
>     to pgAdmin4.
[...]
>     Is there any other tool to talk with PG that doesn't carry so much bulk?
> 
> ​psql is a great tool for your need. ​

Well, when I wrote "lightweight" I didn't mean THAT lightweight.   ;)

Really, I just need some SQL editor that can talk with the server like 
pgA 3 does. No fancy stuff like Backup and all that.

I do use the great "mark some sql lines and execute just those with 
F5"-feature a lot. So this should be supported, too.

try SQLeo
hosted at sourceforge
and not in the GUI list

PAscal



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On 2017-10-12 15:59, Michael Rasmussen wrote:
> I would suggest keep trying pgAdmin 4 and reporting on issues, so
> progress towards making it the tool we want it to be.

It won't happen, choices have been made that preclude it from ever being
a fast, lightweight native app. "Stable", "Fast", and "Features" have
been redefined; this project does not have the same goals as the
previous one.


-- Stephen

On 2017-10-12 9:16 PM, Stephen Cook wrote:
> On 2017-10-12 15:59, Michael Rasmussen wrote:
>> I would suggest keep trying pgAdmin 4 and reporting on issues, so
>> progress towards making it the tool we want it to be.
>
> It won't happen, choices have been made that preclude it from ever being
> a fast, lightweight native app. "Stable", "Fast", and "Features" have
> been redefined; this project does not have the same goals as the
> previous one.

What distinguishes a "native" app from a "non-native" one really?

In the modern day, pgAdmin 4 is just as much a "native" app as pgAdmin 3 was.

Its a fallacy to think that just because something isn't written in C++ or 
similar pre-compiled language that by nature it can't be fast.

Even pgAdmin 3 wasn't a "native" app by some strict standards either because it 
would work on multiple operating systems.

(Anyone responding to this, don't include me in the recipient list, only send it 
to the pgadmin list, I will see that copy.)

-- Darren Duncan

> On 13 Oct 2017, at 05:16, Stephen Cook <sclists@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2017-10-12 15:59, Michael Rasmussen wrote:
>> I would suggest keep trying pgAdmin 4 and reporting on issues, so
>> progress towards making it the tool we want it to be.
>
> It won't happen, choices have been made that preclude it from ever being
> a fast, lightweight native app. "Stable", "Fast", and "Features" have
> been redefined; this project does not have the same goals as the
> previous one.

Correct. pgAdmin 4 is now provably significantly faster than pgAdmin 3 where it counts the most (query tool), and has
farfew known issues - not one universally repeatable crash bug that we know of, compared to various unfixable ones in
pgAdmin3.