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Re: Re: pg_dump docs

От
Vince Vielhaber
Дата:
On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Thomas Lockhart wrote:

> > > Should be twice a day.
> > Where is this auto-updated copy hiding?  The bookmark I have,
> >         http://www.postgresql.org/docs/postgres/index.html
> > is pointing at files that haven't updated for months...
> 
> Right. Last updated at the last release.
> 
> The developer's versions from the current tree are at
> 
>   http://www.postgresql.org/devel-corner/docs/postgres
> 
> (and admin,programmer,tutorial,user)
> 
> I don't see a reference from the developer's corner web page, which
> seems to point back to the released version instead.

That's strange... I see it :)       ...now

Vince.
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Re: Re: pg_dump docs

От
Thomas Lockhart
Дата:
> > I don't see a reference from the developer's corner web page, which
> > seems to point back to the released version instead.
> That's strange... I see it :)       ...now

Great! But I don't, maybe due to caching somewhere? Should I be seeing 
 http://www.postgresql.org/devel-corner/   -> Current documentation

pointing at
 http://www.postgresql.org/devel-corner/docs/index.html

(afaik this index.html does not yet exist, but could point to the
various flavors of pages and tarballs) rather than
 http://www.postgresql.org/docs/index.html

which is what I see now?
                     - Thomas


Re: Re: pg_dump docs

От
Vince Vielhaber
Дата:
On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Thomas Lockhart wrote:

> > > I don't see a reference from the developer's corner web page, which
> > > seems to point back to the released version instead.
> > That's strange... I see it :)       ...now
> 
> Great! But I don't, maybe due to caching somewhere? Should I be seeing 
> 
>   http://www.postgresql.org/devel-corner/
>     -> Current documentation
> 
> pointing at
> 
>   http://www.postgresql.org/devel-corner/docs/index.html
> 
> (afaik this index.html does not yet exist, but could point to the
> various flavors of pages and tarballs) rather than
> 
>   http://www.postgresql.org/docs/index.html
> 
> which is what I see now?

I thought /docs/index.html was to be for the current docs.  Since they're
not, what ARE they pointing to??   Anyway, I've now got it pointing to
devel-contrib/docs/index.html and created an index.  If you ever need to 
update the index, look at the script makeindex in that directory.

Vince.
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Re: Re: pg_dump docs

От
Thomas Lockhart
Дата:
Vince Vielhaber wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Thomas Lockhart wrote:
> 
> > > > I don't see a reference from the developer's corner web page, which
> > > > seems to point back to the released version instead.
> > > That's strange... I see it :)       ...now
> >
> > Great! But I don't, maybe due to caching somewhere? Should I be seeing
> >
> >   http://www.postgresql.org/devel-corner/
> >     -> Current documentation
> >
> > pointing at
> >
> >   http://www.postgresql.org/devel-corner/docs/index.html
> >
> > (afaik this index.html does not yet exist, but could point to the
> > various flavors of pages and tarballs) rather than
> >
> >   http://www.postgresql.org/docs/index.html
> >
> > which is what I see now?
> 
> I thought /docs/index.html was to be for the current docs.  Since they're
> not, what ARE they pointing to??   Anyway, I've now got it pointing to
> devel-contrib/docs/index.html and created an index.  If you ever need to
> update the index, look at the script makeindex in that directory.

docs/index.html *are* the "current docs". They correspond to the current
released version, which would be 7.0.x (though it is possible that no
one updated them for 7.0.2).

For developers (-hackers developers, not application developers using
the current release), the "current docs" correspond to the docs built
nightly (actually twice a day), which reflect the current development
tree.
                    - Thomas


Re: Re: pg_dump docs

От
Philip Warner
Дата:
At 11:13 19/10/00 -0400, Vince Vielhaber wrote:
>
>I thought /docs/index.html was to be for the current docs.  Since they're
>not, what ARE they pointing to??   Anyway, I've now got it pointing to
>devel-contrib/docs/index.html and created an index.  If you ever need to 
>update the index, look at the script makeindex in that directory.
>

I looks like all the HTML links on
http://www.postgresql.org/devel-corner/docs/index.html seem to be broken.


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Re: Re: pg_dump docs

От
Vince Vielhaber
Дата:
On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, Thomas Lockhart wrote:

> Vince Vielhaber wrote:
> > 
> > On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Thomas Lockhart wrote:
> > 
> > > > > I don't see a reference from the developer's corner web page, which
> > > > > seems to point back to the released version instead.
> > > > That's strange... I see it :)       ...now
> > >
> > > Great! But I don't, maybe due to caching somewhere? Should I be seeing
> > >
> > >   http://www.postgresql.org/devel-corner/
> > >     -> Current documentation
> > >
> > > pointing at
> > >
> > >   http://www.postgresql.org/devel-corner/docs/index.html
> > >
> > > (afaik this index.html does not yet exist, but could point to the
> > > various flavors of pages and tarballs) rather than
> > >
> > >   http://www.postgresql.org/docs/index.html
> > >
> > > which is what I see now?
> > 
> > I thought /docs/index.html was to be for the current docs.  Since they're
> > not, what ARE they pointing to??   Anyway, I've now got it pointing to
> > devel-contrib/docs/index.html and created an index.  If you ever need to
> > update the index, look at the script makeindex in that directory.
> 
> docs/index.html *are* the "current docs". They correspond to the current
> released version, which would be 7.0.x (though it is possible that no
> one updated them for 7.0.2).
> 
> For developers (-hackers developers, not application developers using
> the current release), the "current docs" correspond to the docs built
> nightly (actually twice a day), which reflect the current development
> tree.

I see the problem.  You're not of BSD and I was thinking you were.  I'm 
guessing Marc is catching on right now.   To me, "current" means the
docs that correspond to the current (or development) code.  The release
I refer to is either stable or (more appropriately) "release" docs.

Either way, I think I have things figured out now.

Vince.
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Re: Re: pg_dump docs

От
Vince Vielhaber
Дата:
On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, Philip Warner wrote:

> At 11:13 19/10/00 -0400, Vince Vielhaber wrote:
> >
> >I thought /docs/index.html was to be for the current docs.  Since they're
> >not, what ARE they pointing to??   Anyway, I've now got it pointing to
> >devel-contrib/docs/index.html and created an index.  If you ever need to 
> >update the index, look at the script makeindex in that directory.
> >
> 
> I looks like all the HTML links on
> http://www.postgresql.org/devel-corner/docs/index.html seem to be broken.

oops!  Fixed.

Vince.
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Re: Re: pg_dump docs

От
Thomas Lockhart
Дата:
> [Not to list]

Back on list; thanks though for protecting me from ridicule ;)

> >For developers (-hackers developers, not application developers using
> >the current release), the "current docs" correspond to the docs built
> >nightly (actually twice a day), which reflect the current development
> >tree.
> If http://www.postgresql.org/devel-corner/docs/user/ is supposed to be
> based on CVS, then I must have done something wrong; the new pg_restore
> entry has not appeared (it's now > 24 hours old).
> Any hints would be appreciated.

Ah, the build has been failing for at least the last few days due to
small problems in new content. Since I receive ~700 logs of doc builds
each year (well, that is the annual rate but I've only stepped up to
twice daily since ~April), I get sloppy about looking through them
carefully, and instead tend to look for the *length* of the log as a
measure of success while rarely examining the end of the log to see how
it actually went. In this case I missed the failure.

btw, the build log is updated and posted at
 http://www.postgresql.org/devel-corner/docs/docbuild.log

Vince, could we get a cross reference to this on the developer's page?


The current problem is in using underscores in the "id" field of header
tags; this is an illegal character in this context per DocBook (a
feature not at all obvious, but which can be seen by omission in our
other docs).

pg_restore.sgml also had quite a few ^M's at the end of lines; I've got
a utility to clean those up so I applied those fixes also.

While tracking down another problem with replicated ID fields in
runtime.sgml, I caught a duplicated section and removed the apparently
older version.

I've also applied a couple of fixes suggested by Laser Henry.

Things now build without errors on my local machine, and should do the
same on postgresql.org.
                     - Thomas


Re: Re: pg_dump docs

От
Vince Vielhaber
Дата:
On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, Thomas Lockhart wrote:

> Ah, the build has been failing for at least the last few days due to
> small problems in new content. Since I receive ~700 logs of doc builds
> each year (well, that is the annual rate but I've only stepped up to
> twice daily since ~April), I get sloppy about looking through them
> carefully, and instead tend to look for the *length* of the log as a
> measure of success while rarely examining the end of the log to see how
> it actually went. In this case I missed the failure.
> 
> btw, the build log is updated and posted at
> 
>   http://www.postgresql.org/devel-corner/docs/docbuild.log
> 
> Vince, could we get a cross reference to this on the developer's page?

I was gonna ask you if you wanted that.  Anyway it's now there.  And
before anyone says it, yes I know about the duplicate link. :)

Vince.
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