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Question about the contrib rpm ?

От
DANTE ALEXANDRA
Дата:
Hello,

We have generated a rpm with PostGreSQL 8.1.2, from the "tar.gz" file,
compiled with the "icc" Intel compiler on Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4 AS.
During the compilation, we have had few warnings, but nevertheless, we
work with this rpm without trouble.

We have a question about the contrib rpm.
To have some tools like the "start_scripts", should we :
1. specify an option or anything else during the generation of the rpm ?
(from "tar.gz" file)
2. download the contrib rpm from the PostGreSQL web site and use it with
our rpm ?
3. download the contrib rpm from the PostGreSQL web site and recompile
it with the "icc" Intel compiler ?

We think that it is a newbie question, but we haven't found some tips
about this.

Thanks a lot.
Regards,
Agnès & Alexandra



Re: Question about the contrib rpm ?

От
Tom Lane
Дата:
DANTE ALEXANDRA <ALEXANDRA.DANTE@BULL.NET> writes:
> We have a question about the contrib rpm.
> To have some tools like the "start_scripts", should we :

I don't believe the RPM distribution includes contrib/start-scripts
(mainly because that contrib directory has no Makefile that would
install the scripts).  I cannot see why you'd want them, since
the postgresql-server RPM already has an init script that is
considerably more appropriate for RPM-based distros than the one
that's in contrib.

            regards, tom lane

Re: Question about the contrib rpm ?

От
Agnes Bocchino
Дата:
Hello Tom, hello List,

Sorry if we haven't been clear in our first mail.
We don't really understand your answer.
So, we try to clarify our general question and give more details :

When we go on the web site to download PostgreSQL 8.1.2,
we find not only the serveur rpm but also some others rpms.
and we don't kow which of them we have to install together with our rpm
make from the 8.1.2 targz.

We are making our rpm on Novascale Ia64
We have used the "postgresql-8.1.2.tar.gz" file downloaded from the
PostGreSQL web site. From that file, we have re-compiled PostGreSQL for
IA64 on Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4 AS, with the "icc" Intel compiler.
We would like to 'deliver'  a more complete set as possible.
and we don't know if we have to package some others packages..
For the langage python,perl,tcl .......we know that if we need them we
have to use the --with option when we compile.
It seems also to us that it is not necessary to have the lib rpm as the
necessary librairies are include in the rpm when wecompile and package it.
but ..............we dont' know what doing with the *contrib *rpm
available on the net, should we have to deliver it with our rpm.

Why this question ?
When we have extract files from the archive file, we have obtained these
directories :
[/BUILD/postgresql-8.1.2]$ ls -ltr
total 1528
-rw-r--r--   1 postdev pgsql    445 Apr 23  2004 aclocal.m4
-rw-r--r--   1 postdev pgsql   1375 Oct  1  2004 README
-rw-r--r--   1 postdev pgsql   1412 Oct  6  2004 Makefile
-rw-r--r--   1 postdev pgsql   1192 Dec 31  2004 COPYRIGHT
-rw-r--r--   1 postdev pgsql   3435 May  1  2005 GNUmakefile.in
-rwxr-xr-x   1 postdev pgsql 689752 Jan  5 05:02 configure
-rw-r--r--   1 postdev pgsql  43596 Jan  5 05:02 configure.in
-rw-r--r--   1 postdev pgsql 387774 Jan  6 05:09 HISTORY
-rw-r--r--   1 postdev pgsql  44484 Jan  6 05:09 INSTALL
drwxr-xr-x   2 postdev pgsql   4096 Jan  6 05:09 config
drwxr-xr-x  35 postdev pgsql   4096 Jan  6 05:09 *contrib*
-rw-r--r--   1 postdev pgsql   3435 Feb 16 12:22 GNUmakefile
-rwxr-xr-x   1 postdev pgsql  56658 Feb 16 12:22 config.status
drwxr-xr-x  15 postdev pgsql   4096 Feb 16 12:22 src
drwxr-xr-x   7 postdev pgsql   4096 Feb 16 12:22 doc
-rw-r--r--   1 postdev pgsql 278305 Feb 16 12:22 config.log

Under the "contrib" repertory, we have among others things
"*start-scripts*" directory which contains the "linux" file which allows
to launch automatically PostGreSQL each time the machine reboots.
[ contrib]# ls
adddepend          dblink         intarray   mSQL-interface
pgstattuple    tablefunc
btree_gist         dbmirror       isbn_issn  oid2name
pg_trgm        tips
chkpass            earthdistance  lo         oracle
README         tsearch2
contrib-global.mk  fulltextindex  ltree      pgbench
seg            userlock
cube               fuzzystrmatch  mac        pg_buffercache
spi            vacuumlo
dbase              intagg         Makefile   pgcrypto
start-scripts  xml2


And when we install our rpm, we don't have a "contrib" directory such as
this obtains after having extracted the files from the tar.gz archive.
Our question is how to add in the rpm that we have generated a "contrib"
directory, in order to have scripts like "linux" ?
Or  should we used the "contrib" rpm available in the web site
Or we have to regenerate the contrib rpm from the source rpm?
Or should we install the "contrib" rpm available in the web site, even
if it has not been compiled for IA64 ?
Or Should we recompile this rpm with gcc and it will be compatible with
our rpm compiled with icc?

We found in the archive documentation information about start-script,
we don't find anything else about init script, what do you mean with
'init script' , is-it the pg_ctl command ?

and is there a documentation abou all 'things'  we see under the contrib
directory (from the targz)

Thank you having read us until the end ............
and thanks again for your help

regards
A&A


Tom Lane wrote:

>DANTE ALEXANDRA <ALEXANDRA.DANTE@BULL.NET> writes:
>
>
>>We have a question about the contrib rpm.
>>To have some tools like the "start_scripts", should we :
>>
>>
>
>I don't believe the RPM distribution includes contrib/start-scripts
>(mainly because that contrib directory has no Makefile that would
>install the scripts).  I cannot see why you'd want them, since
>the postgresql-server RPM already has an init script that is
>considerably more appropriate for RPM-based distros than the one
>that's in contrib.
>
>            regards, tom lane
>
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Re: Question about the contrib rpm ?

От
"chris smith"
Дата:
On 3/3/06, Agnes Bocchino <agnes.bocchino@bull.net> wrote:
> Hello Tom, hello List,
>
> Sorry if we haven't been clear in our first mail.
> We don't really understand your answer.
> So, we try to clarify our general question and give more details :
>
> When we go on the web site to download PostgreSQL 8.1.2,
> we find not only the serveur rpm but also some others rpms.
> and we don't kow which of them we have to install together with our rpm
> make from the 8.1.2 targz.
>
> We are making our rpm on Novascale Ia64
> We have used the "postgresql-8.1.2.tar.gz" file downloaded from the
> PostGreSQL web site. From that file, we have re-compiled PostGreSQL for
> IA64 on Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4 AS, with the "icc" Intel compiler.
> We would like to 'deliver'  a more complete set as possible.
> and we don't know if we have to package some others packages..
> For the langage python,perl,tcl .......we know that if we need them we
> have to use the --with option when we compile.
> It seems also to us that it is not necessary to have the lib rpm as the
> necessary librairies are include in the rpm when wecompile and package it.
> but ..............we dont' know what doing with the *contrib *rpm
> available on the net, should we have to deliver it with our rpm.
>
> Why this question ?
> When we have extract files from the archive file, we have obtained these
> directories :
> [/BUILD/postgresql-8.1.2]$ ls -ltr
> total 1528
> -rw-r--r--   1 postdev pgsql    445 Apr 23  2004 aclocal.m4
> -rw-r--r--   1 postdev pgsql   1375 Oct  1  2004 README
> -rw-r--r--   1 postdev pgsql   1412 Oct  6  2004 Makefile
> -rw-r--r--   1 postdev pgsql   1192 Dec 31  2004 COPYRIGHT
> -rw-r--r--   1 postdev pgsql   3435 May  1  2005 GNUmakefile.in
> -rwxr-xr-x   1 postdev pgsql 689752 Jan  5 05:02 configure
> -rw-r--r--   1 postdev pgsql  43596 Jan  5 05:02 configure.in
> -rw-r--r--   1 postdev pgsql 387774 Jan  6 05:09 HISTORY
> -rw-r--r--   1 postdev pgsql  44484 Jan  6 05:09 INSTALL
> drwxr-xr-x   2 postdev pgsql   4096 Jan  6 05:09 config
> drwxr-xr-x  35 postdev pgsql   4096 Jan  6 05:09 *contrib*
> -rw-r--r--   1 postdev pgsql   3435 Feb 16 12:22 GNUmakefile
> -rwxr-xr-x   1 postdev pgsql  56658 Feb 16 12:22 config.status
> drwxr-xr-x  15 postdev pgsql   4096 Feb 16 12:22 src
> drwxr-xr-x   7 postdev pgsql   4096 Feb 16 12:22 doc
> -rw-r--r--   1 postdev pgsql 278305 Feb 16 12:22 config.log
>
> Under the "contrib" repertory, we have among others things
> "*start-scripts*" directory which contains the "linux" file which allows
> to launch automatically PostGreSQL each time the machine reboots.
> [ contrib]# ls
> adddepend          dblink         intarray   mSQL-interface
> pgstattuple    tablefunc
> btree_gist         dbmirror       isbn_issn  oid2name
> pg_trgm        tips
> chkpass            earthdistance  lo         oracle
> README         tsearch2
> contrib-global.mk  fulltextindex  ltree      pgbench
> seg            userlock
> cube               fuzzystrmatch  mac        pg_buffercache
> spi            vacuumlo
> dbase              intagg         Makefile   pgcrypto
> start-scripts  xml2
>
>
> And when we install our rpm, we don't have a "contrib" directory such as
> this obtains after having extracted the files from the tar.gz archive.
> Our question is how to add in the rpm that we have generated a "contrib"
> directory, in order to have scripts like "linux" ?

If you're building your own rpm you'll need to do it yourself - that's
getting beyond what this list can help you with.

> Or  should we used the "contrib" rpm available in the web site

No - because it's not built for your system or with your compiler, it
may work but you may also run into strange bugs.

Re: Question about the contrib rpm ?

От
DANTE ALEXANDRA
Дата:
Hello,

We are working with PostGreSQL since november 2005, and ours questions
are automatically those of novice persons, that's why your answer
suprises us.

The aim of our question about the "contrib" rpm was to understand why
this package exists, what it is used for, and how generate it. We know
that we are building our own rpm, but by doing this, we also test
PostGreSQL on an IA64 platform...

Thank you for your help.

Regards,
Agnès & Alexandra

chris smith a écrit :

>On 3/3/06, Agnes Bocchino <agnes.bocchino@bull.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Hello Tom, hello List,
>>
>>Sorry if we haven't been clear in our first mail.
>>We don't really understand your answer.
>>So, we try to clarify our general question and give more details :
>>
>>When we go on the web site to download PostgreSQL 8.1.2,
>>we find not only the serveur rpm but also some others rpms.
>>and we don't kow which of them we have to install together with our rpm
>>make from the 8.1.2 targz.
>>
>>We are making our rpm on Novascale Ia64
>>We have used the "postgresql-8.1.2.tar.gz" file downloaded from the
>>PostGreSQL web site. From that file, we have re-compiled PostGreSQL for
>>IA64 on Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4 AS, with the "icc" Intel compiler.
>>We would like to 'deliver'  a more complete set as possible.
>>and we don't know if we have to package some others packages..
>>For the langage python,perl,tcl .......we know that if we need them we
>>have to use the --with option when we compile.
>>It seems also to us that it is not necessary to have the lib rpm as the
>>necessary librairies are include in the rpm when wecompile and package it.
>>but ..............we dont' know what doing with the *contrib *rpm
>>available on the net, should we have to deliver it with our rpm.
>>
>>Why this question ?
>>When we have extract files from the archive file, we have obtained these
>>directories :
>>[/BUILD/postgresql-8.1.2]$ ls -ltr
>>total 1528
>>-rw-r--r--   1 postdev pgsql    445 Apr 23  2004 aclocal.m4
>>-rw-r--r--   1 postdev pgsql   1375 Oct  1  2004 README
>>-rw-r--r--   1 postdev pgsql   1412 Oct  6  2004 Makefile
>>-rw-r--r--   1 postdev pgsql   1192 Dec 31  2004 COPYRIGHT
>>-rw-r--r--   1 postdev pgsql   3435 May  1  2005 GNUmakefile.in
>>-rwxr-xr-x   1 postdev pgsql 689752 Jan  5 05:02 configure
>>-rw-r--r--   1 postdev pgsql  43596 Jan  5 05:02 configure.in
>>-rw-r--r--   1 postdev pgsql 387774 Jan  6 05:09 HISTORY
>>-rw-r--r--   1 postdev pgsql  44484 Jan  6 05:09 INSTALL
>>drwxr-xr-x   2 postdev pgsql   4096 Jan  6 05:09 config
>>drwxr-xr-x  35 postdev pgsql   4096 Jan  6 05:09 *contrib*
>>-rw-r--r--   1 postdev pgsql   3435 Feb 16 12:22 GNUmakefile
>>-rwxr-xr-x   1 postdev pgsql  56658 Feb 16 12:22 config.status
>>drwxr-xr-x  15 postdev pgsql   4096 Feb 16 12:22 src
>>drwxr-xr-x   7 postdev pgsql   4096 Feb 16 12:22 doc
>>-rw-r--r--   1 postdev pgsql 278305 Feb 16 12:22 config.log
>>
>>Under the "contrib" repertory, we have among others things
>>"*start-scripts*" directory which contains the "linux" file which allows
>>to launch automatically PostGreSQL each time the machine reboots.
>>[ contrib]# ls
>>adddepend          dblink         intarray   mSQL-interface
>>pgstattuple    tablefunc
>>btree_gist         dbmirror       isbn_issn  oid2name
>>pg_trgm        tips
>>chkpass            earthdistance  lo         oracle
>>README         tsearch2
>>contrib-global.mk  fulltextindex  ltree      pgbench
>>seg            userlock
>>cube               fuzzystrmatch  mac        pg_buffercache
>>spi            vacuumlo
>>dbase              intagg         Makefile   pgcrypto
>>start-scripts  xml2
>>
>>
>>And when we install our rpm, we don't have a "contrib" directory such as
>>this obtains after having extracted the files from the tar.gz archive.
>>Our question is how to add in the rpm that we have generated a "contrib"
>>directory, in order to have scripts like "linux" ?
>>
>>
>
>If you're building your own rpm you'll need to do it yourself - that's
>getting beyond what this list can help you with.
>
>
>
>>Or  should we used the "contrib" rpm available in the web site
>>
>>
>
>No - because it's not built for your system or with your compiler, it
>may work but you may also run into strange bugs.
>
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>
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Re: Question about the contrib rpm ?

От
Martijn van Oosterhout
Дата:
On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 02:17:16PM +0100, DANTE ALEXANDRA wrote:
> Hello,
>
> We are working with PostGreSQL since november 2005, and ours questions
> are automatically those of novice persons, that's why your answer
> suprises us.
>
> The aim of our question about the "contrib" rpm was to understand why
> this package exists, what it is used for, and how generate it. We know
> that we are building our own rpm, but by doing this, we also test
> PostGreSQL on an IA64 platform...

Sure. The contrib rpm contains everything in the contrib directory.
Look in there if you want to see what it is. They have README files.

The reason nobody can help you here is because not a lot of people here
know anything about rpms at all and thus don't know how to answer your
question. If you compile the stuff in contrib and include it in your
main package, fine. It's just seperated out because not everybody needs
it. It's not part of the core postgresql.

Have a nice day,
--
Martijn van Oosterhout   <kleptog@svana.org>   http://svana.org/kleptog/
> Patent. n. Genius is 5% inspiration and 95% perspiration. A patent is a
> tool for doing 5% of the work and then sitting around waiting for someone
> else to do the other 95% so you can sue them.

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Re: Question about the contrib rpm ?

От
DANTE ALEXANDRA
Дата:
Martijn van Oosterhout a écrit :

>On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 02:17:16PM +0100, DANTE ALEXANDRA wrote:
>
>
>>Hello,
>>
>>We are working with PostGreSQL since november 2005, and ours questions
>>are automatically those of novice persons, that's why your answer
>>suprises us.
>>
>>The aim of our question about the "contrib" rpm was to understand why
>>this package exists, what it is used for, and how generate it. We know
>>that we are building our own rpm, but by doing this, we also test
>>PostGreSQL on an IA64 platform...
>>
>>
>
>Sure. The contrib rpm contains everything in the contrib directory.
>Look in there if you want to see what it is. They have README files.
>
>The reason nobody can help you here is because not a lot of people here
>know anything about rpms at all and thus don't know how to answer your
>question. If you compile the stuff in contrib and include it in your
>main package, fine. It's just seperated out because not everybody needs
>it. It's not part of the core postgresql.
>
>Have a nice day,
>
>

Thank you for your answer.
We will try to generate a "contrib" rpm from the contrib directory on an
IA64 platform with the Intel compiler icc.

Regards,
Agnès & Alexandra



Re: Question about the contrib rpm ?

От
Chris
Дата:
DANTE ALEXANDRA wrote:
> Martijn van Oosterhout a écrit :
>
>> On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 02:17:16PM +0100, DANTE ALEXANDRA wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> We are working with PostGreSQL since november 2005, and ours
>>> questions are automatically those of novice persons, that's why your
>>> answer suprises us.
>>>
>>> The aim of our question about the "contrib" rpm was to understand why
>>> this package exists, what it is used for, and how generate it. We
>>> know that we are building our own rpm, but by doing this, we also
>>> test PostGreSQL on an IA64 platform...
>>>
>>
>>
>> Sure. The contrib rpm contains everything in the contrib directory.
>> Look in there if you want to see what it is. They have README files.
>>
>> The reason nobody can help you here is because not a lot of people here
>> know anything about rpms at all and thus don't know how to answer your
>> question. If you compile the stuff in contrib and include it in your
>> main package, fine. It's just seperated out because not everybody needs
>> it. It's not part of the core postgresql.
>>
>> Have a nice day,
>>
>>
>
> Thank you for your answer.
> We will try to generate a "contrib" rpm from the contrib directory on an
> IA64 platform with the Intel compiler icc.

You could always take the .src.rpm and recompile it. It will create the
same packages as postgresql does (so -libs, -contrib, -devel etc) but
using your icc compiler.

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