Re: checkpointer continuous flushing

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Fabien COELHO
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Re: checkpointer continuous flushing
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alpine.DEB.2.10.1506030738430.20439@sto
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checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Jeff Janes <jeff.janes@gmail.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Patric Bechtel <patric.bechtel@gmail.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Amit Langote <Langote_Amit_f8@lab.ntt.co.jp>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Amit Langote <Langote_Amit_f8@lab.ntt.co.jp>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Amit Langote <Langote_Amit_f8@lab.ntt.co.jp>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Cédric Villemain <cedric@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <fabien.coelho@mines-paristech.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>

Hello Amit,

>> It is currently "*_flush_to_disk". In Andres Freund version the name is
>> "sync_on_checkpoint_flush", but I did not found it very clear. Using
>> "*_flush_on_write" instead as your suggest, would be fine as well, it
>> emphasizes the "when/how" it occurs instead of the final "destination", why
>> not...
> [...]
>
> It seems 'sync' gets closer to what I really wanted 'flush' to mean. If 
> I understand this and the previous discussion(s) correctly, the patch 
> tries to alleviate the problems caused by one-big-sync-at-the 
> end-of-writes by doing the sync in step with writes (which do abide by 
> the checkpoint_completion_target). Given that impression, it seems 
> *_sync_on_write may even do the job.

I desagree with this one, because the sync is only *initiated*, not done. 
For this reason I think that "flush" seems a better word. I understand 
"sync" as "committed to disk". For the data to be synced, it should call 
with the "wait after" option, which is a partial "fsync", but that would 
be terrible for performance as all checkpointed pages would be written one 
by one, without any opportunity for reordering them.

For what it's worth and for the record, Linux sync_file_range 
documentation says "This is an asynchronous flush-to-disk operation" to 
describe the corresponding option. This is probably where I took it.

So two contenders:
  *_flush_to_disk  *_flush_on_write

-- 
Fabien.


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