Re: checkpointer continuous flushing

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Fabien COELHO
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Re: checkpointer continuous flushing
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alpine.DEB.2.10.1506080951480.5519@sto
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checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Jeff Janes <jeff.janes@gmail.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Patric Bechtel <patric.bechtel@gmail.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Amit Langote <Langote_Amit_f8@lab.ntt.co.jp>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Amit Langote <Langote_Amit_f8@lab.ntt.co.jp>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Amit Langote <Langote_Amit_f8@lab.ntt.co.jp>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Cédric Villemain <cedric@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <fabien.coelho@mines-paristech.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>

Hello Cédric,

> It looks a bit hazardous, do you have a benchmark for freeBSD ?

No, I just consulted the FreeBSD man page for posix_fadvise. I someone can 
run tests on something which HDDs is not linux, that would be nice.

> Sources says:
> 	case POSIX_FADV_DONTNEED:
> 		/*
> 		 * Flush any open FS buffers and then remove pages
> 		 * from the backing VM object.  Using vinvalbuf() here
> 		 * is a bit heavy-handed as it flushes all buffers for
> 		 * the given vnode, not just the buffers covering the
> 		 * requested range.

It is indeed heavy-handed, but that would probably trigger the expected 
behavior which is to start writing to disk, so I would expect to see 
benefits similar to those of "sync_file_range" on Linux.

Buffer writes from bgwriter & checkpointer are throttled, which reduces 
the potential impact of a "heavy-handed" approach in the kernel.

Now if on some platforms the behavior is absurd, obviously it would be 
better to turn the feature off on those.

Note that this is already used by pg in "initdb", but the impact would 
probably be very small anyway.

-- 
Fabien.
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