Re: checkpointer continuous flushing

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Fabien COELHO
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Re: checkpointer continuous flushing
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alpine.DEB.2.10.1508171431580.28260@sto
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checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Jeff Janes <jeff.janes@gmail.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Peter Geoghegan <pg@heroku.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V18 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Patric Bechtel <patric.bechtel@gmail.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing - V16 Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Amit Langote <Langote_Amit_f8@lab.ntt.co.jp>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Amit Langote <Langote_Amit_f8@lab.ntt.co.jp>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Amit Langote <Langote_Amit_f8@lab.ntt.co.jp>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Cédric Villemain <cedric@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <fabien.coelho@mines-paristech.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Jim Nasby <Jim.Nasby@BlueTreble.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: checkpointer continuous flushing Fabien COELHO <coelho@cri.ensmp.fr>

Hello Andres,

> On 2015-08-12 22:34:59 +0200, Fabien COELHO wrote:
>>     sort/flush : tps avg & stddev (percent of time beyond 10.0 tps)
>>      on   on   : 631 +- 131 (0.1%)
>>      on   off  : 564 +- 303 (12.0%)
>>      off  on   : 167 +- 315 (76.8%) # stuck...
>>      off  off  : 177 +- 305 (71.2%) # ~ current pg
>
> What exactly do you mean with 'stuck'?

I mean that the during the I/O storms induced by the checkpoint pgbench 
sometimes get stuck, i.e. does not report its progression every second (I 
run with "-P 1"). This occurs when sort is off, either with or without 
flush, for instance an extract from the off/off medium run:
 progress: 573.0 s, 5.0 tps, lat 933.022 ms stddev 83.977 progress: 574.0 s, 777.1 tps, lat 7.161 ms stddev 37.059 progress: 575.0 s, 148.9 tps, lat 4.597 ms stddev 10.708 progress: 814.4 s, 0.0 tps, lat -nan ms stddev -nan progress: 815.0 s, 0.0 tps, lat -nan ms stddev -nan progress: 816.0 s, 0.0 tps, lat -nan ms stddev -nan progress: 817.0 s, 0.0 tps, lat -nan ms stddev -nan progress: 818.0 s, 0.0 tps, lat -nan ms stddev -nan progress: 819.0 s, 0.0 tps, lat -nan ms stddev -nan progress: 820.0 s, 0.0 tps, lat -nan ms stddev -nan progress: 821.0 s, 0.0 tps, lat -nan ms stddev -nan progress: 822.0 s, 0.0 tps, lat -nan ms stddev -nan progress: 823.0 s, 0.0 tps, lat -nan ms stddev -nan progress: 824.0 s, 0.0 tps, lat -nan ms stddev -nan progress: 825.0 s, 0.0 tps, lat -nan ms stddev -nan progress: 826.0 s, 0.0 tps, lat -nan ms stddev -nan

There is a 239.4 seconds gap in pgbench output. This occurs from time to 
time and may represent a significant part of the run, and I count these 
"stuck" times as 0 tps. Sometimes pgbench is stuck performance wise but 
manages nevetheless to report a "0.0 tps" every second, as above after it 
unstuck.

The actual origin of the issue with a stuck client (pgbench, libpq, OS, 
postgres...) is unclear to me, but the whole system does not behave well 
under an I/O storm anyway, and I have not succeeded in understanding where 
pgbench is stuck when it does not report its progress. I tried some runs 
with gdb but it did not get stuck and reported a lot of "0.0 tps" during 
the storms.


Here are a few more figures with the v8 version of the patch, on a host 
with 8 cores, 16 GB, RAID 1 HDD, under Ubuntu precise. I already reported 
the medium case, and the small case turned afterwards.
  small postgresql.conf:    shared_buffers = 2GB    checkpoint_timeout = 300s # this is the default    checkpoint_completion_target = 0.8    # initialization: pgbench -i -s 120
  medium postgresql.conf: ## ALREADY REPORTED    shared_buffers = 4GB    checkpoint_timeout = 15min    checkpoint_completion_target = 0.8    max_wal_size = 4GB    # initialization: pgbench -i -s 250
  warmup> pgbench -T 1200 -M prepared -S -j 2 -c 4
  # 400 tps throttled test  sh> pgbench -M prepared -N -P 1 -T 4000 -R 400 -L 100 -j 2 -c 4
      options  / percent of skipped/late transactions    sort/flush /   small  medium     on   on   :    3.5    2.7     on   off  :   24.6   16.2     off  on   :   66.1   68.4     off  off  :   63.2   68.7
  # 200 tps throttled test  sh> pgbench -M prepared -N -P 1 -T 4000 -R 200 -L 100 -j 2 -c 4
      options  / percent of skipped/late transactions    sort/flush /   small  medium     on   on   :    1.9    2.7     on   off  :   14.3    9.5     off  on   :   45.6   47.4     off  off  :   47.4   48.8
  # 100 tps throttled test  sh> pgbench -M prepared -N -P 1 -T 4000 -R 100 -L 100 -j 2 -c 4
      options  / percent of skipped/late transactions    sort/flush /   small  medium     on   on   :    0.9    1.8     on   off  :    9.3    7.9     off  on   :    5.0   13.0     off  off  :   31.2   31.9
  # full speed 1 client  sh> pgbench -M prepared -N -P 1 -T 4000
      options  / tps avg & stddev (percent of time below 10.0 tps)    sort/flush /    small              medium     on   on   : 564 +- 148 ( 0.1%)   631 +- 131 ( 0.1%)     on   off  : 470 +- 340 (21.7%)   564 +- 303 (12.0%)     off  on   : 157 +- 296 (66.2%)   167 +- 315 (76.8%)     off  off  : 154 +- 251 (61.5%)   177 +- 305 (71.2%)
  # full speed 2 threads 4 clients  sh> pgbench -M prepared -N -P 1 -T 4000 -j 2 -c 4
      options  / tps avg & stddev (percent of time below 10.0 tps)    sort/flush /    small              medium     on   on   : 757 +- 417 ( 0.1%)  1058 +- 455 ( 0.1%)     on   off  : 752 +- 893 (48.4%)  1056 +- 942 (32.8%)     off  on   : 173 +- 521 (83.0%)   170 +- 500 (88.3%)     off  off  : 199 +- 512 (82.5%)   209 +- 506 (82.0%)

In all cases, the "sort on & flush on" provides the best results, with tps 
speedup from 3-5, and overall high responsiveness (& lower latency).

-- 
Fabien.


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