Re: Simplifying replication

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Josh Berkus
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Re: Simplifying replication
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Simplifying replication Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Simplifying replication Greg Smith <greg@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Simplifying replication Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Simplifying replication Greg Smith <greg@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Simplifying replication Robert Treat <rob@xzilla.net>
Re: Simplifying replication Mark Kirkwood <mark.kirkwood@catalyst.net.nz>
Re: Simplifying replication Brendan Jurd <direvus@gmail.com>
Re: Simplifying replication Dimitri Fontaine <dimitri@2ndQuadrant.fr>
Re: Simplifying replication Hannu Krosing <hannu@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Simplifying replication Dimitri Fontaine <dimitri@2ndQuadrant.fr>
Re: Simplifying replication Hannu Krosing <hannu@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Simplifying replication Dimitri Fontaine <dimitri@2ndQuadrant.fr>
Re: Simplifying replication Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Simplifying replication Greg Stark <gsstark@mit.edu>
Re: Simplifying replication Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Simplifying replication Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Simplifying replication Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Simplifying replication Greg Stark <gsstark@mit.edu>
Re: Simplifying replication Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Simplifying replication Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Simplifying replication Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Simplifying replication Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Simplifying replication Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Simplifying replication Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Simplifying replication Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Simplifying replication Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Simplifying replication Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Simplifying replication Dimitri Fontaine <dimitri@2ndQuadrant.fr>
Re: Simplifying replication Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Simplifying replication Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Simplifying replication Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Simplifying replication Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Simplifying replication Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Simplifying replication Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Simplifying replication Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Simplifying replication "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: Simplifying replication Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Simplifying replication Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Simplifying replication Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Simplifying replication Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Simplifying replication Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Simplifying replication Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Simplifying replication Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Simplifying replication Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Simplifying replication Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Simplifying replication Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>
Re: Simplifying replication Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Simplifying replication Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Simplifying replication Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Simplifying replication Dimitri Fontaine <dimitri@2ndQuadrant.fr>

> Please see
> http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-docs/2010-10/msg00038.php

Ye gods and little fishes!

You really want to talk arcane formulas.  I've re-read that
three times, and am still not sure that I could tell someone 
definitively how much disk space WAL needs for a given group of 
settings.  I'll also point out that that formula is not in our docs -- 
what's an appropriate location?

I think this needs to be corrected in 9.1, *even if it means breaking 
backwards compatibility*.

What would be sensible for DBAs is to have two settings:

max_wal_size
min_wal_size

These would be expresses in MB or GB and would be simple direct 
quantities, which our formulas would work backwards from.  max_wal_size 
would be a hard limit (i.e. Postgres would stop accepting writes if we 
hit it), and Admins would not be allowed to set min_wal_size to more 
than max_wal_size - 2.

Even better would be to replace min_wal_size with min_wal_time, which 
would set a time span for the oldest WAL segment to be kept (up to 
max_wal_size - 2).   Hmmm.  That doesn't seem that hard to implement. 
Is it?

(BTW, Robert, that e-mail is what I meant by "relationship")

--                                   -- Josh Berkus                                     PostgreSQL Experts Inc.                                     http://www.pgexperts.com

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