Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade

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Andres Freund
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Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade
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20220803202014.77m6z5m7v525p2b4@awork3.anarazel.de
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pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade "Jonathan S. Katz" <jkatz@postgresql.org>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade "Jonathan S. Katz" <jkatz@postgresql.org>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade "Jonathan S. Katz" <jkatz@postgresql.org>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade "Jonathan S. Katz" <jkatz@postgresql.org>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade "Jonathan S. Katz" <jkatz@postgresql.org>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade "Jonathan S. Katz" <jkatz@postgresql.org>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade "Jonathan S. Katz" <jkatz@postgresql.org>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade "Jonathan S. Katz" <jkatz@postgresql.org>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade "Jonathan S. Katz" <jkatz@postgresql.org>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Shruthi Gowda <gowdashru@gmail.com>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
Re: pg15b2: large objects lost on upgrade Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Hi,

On 2022-08-03 09:59:40 -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 3:51 PM Tom Lane  wrote:
> > > The test does look helpful and it would catch regressions. Loosely
> > > quoting Robert on a different point upthread, we don't want to turn off
> > > the alarm just because it's spuriously going off.
> > > I think the weakened check is OK (and possibly mimics the real-world
> > > where autovacuum runs), unless you see a major drawback to it?
> >
> > I also think that ">=" is a sufficient requirement.  It'd be a
> > bit painful to test if we had to cope with potential XID wraparound,
> > but we know that these installations haven't been around nearly
> > long enough for that, so a plain ">=" test ought to be good enough.
> > (Replacing the simple "eq" code with something that can handle that
> > doesn't look like much fun, though.)
> 
> I don't really like this approach. Imagine that the code got broken in
> such a way that relfrozenxid and relminmxid were set to a value chosen
> at random - say, the contents of 4 bytes of unallocated memory that
> contained random garbage. Well, right now, the chances that this would
> cause a test failure are nearly 100%. With this change, they'd be
> nearly 0%.

Can't that pretty easily be addressed by subsequently querying txid_current(),
and checking that the value isn't newer than that?

Greetings,

Andres Freund


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