Re: Adding CI to our tree
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Andres Freund
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Re: Adding CI to our tree
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20220213191456.gdrhfu7vhvaifypd@alap3.anarazel.de
Ответ на
Re: Adding CI to our tree (Tom Lane)
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Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Daniel Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Daniel Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Daniel Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Daniel Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
ssl tests fail on windows / slurp_file() offset doesn't work on win Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: ssl tests fail on windows / slurp_file() offset doesn't work on win Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: ssl tests fail on windows / slurp_file() offset doesn't work on win Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: ssl tests fail on windows / slurp_file() offset doesn't work on win Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Daniel Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Melanie Plageman <melanieplageman@gmail.com>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Daniel Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Daniel Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Daniel Gustafsson <daniel@yesql.se>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
pg_basebackup fsyncs some files despite --no-sync (was: Adding CI to our tree) Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: pg_basebackup fsyncs some files despite --no-sync (was: Adding CI to our tree) Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree (ccache) Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: Adding CI to our tree (ccache) Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree (ccache) Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: Adding CI to our tree (ccache) Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: Adding CI to our tree (ccache) Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree (ccache) Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: Adding CI to our tree (ccache) Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree (ccache) Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Re: Adding CI to our tree Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Hi, On 2022-02-13 12:13:17 -0500, Tom Lane wrote: > Robert Haas writes: > > This is exactly why I'm not a huge fan of having ci stuff in the tree. > > It supposes that there's one right way to do a build, but in reality, > > different people want and indeed need to use different options for all > > kinds of reasons. Sure. But why is that an argument against "having ci stuff in the tree"? All it does is to make sure that a certain base-level of testing is easy to achieve for everyone. I don't like working on windows or mac, but my patches often have platform dependent bits. Now it's less likely that I need to manually interact with windows. I don't think we can (or well should) replace the buildfarm with the CI stuff. The buildfarm provides extensive and varied coverage for master/release branches. Which isn't feasible for unmerged development work, including cfbot, from a resource usage POV alone. > > That's the whole value of having things like > > configure and pg_config_manual.h. When we start arguing about whether > > or ci builds should use -DWRITE_READ_PARSE_PLAN_TREES we're inevitably > > into the realm where no choice is objectively better, > Right. Can we set things up so that it's not too painful to inject > custom build options into a CI build? What kind of injection are you thinking about? A patch author can obviously just add options in .cirrus.yml. That's something possible now, that was not possible with cfbot applying its own .cirrus.yml It'd be nice if there were a way to do it more easily for msvc and configure builds together, right now it'd require modifying those tasks in different ways. But that's not really a CI question. I'd like to have things like -fanitize=aligned and -DWRITE_READ_PARSE_PLAN_TREES on by default for CI, primarily for cfbot's benefit. Most patch authors won't know about using -DWRITE_READ_PARSE_PLAN_TREES etc, so they won't even think about enabling them. We're *really* not doing well on the "timely review" side of things, so we at least should not waste time on high latency back-forth for easily automatically detectable things. > I should think that at the very least one needs to be able to vary the > configure switches and CPPFLAGS/CFLAGS. Do you mean as part of a patch tested with cfbot, CI running for pushes to your own repository, or ...? Greetings, Andres Freund
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