Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods

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Ildus Kurbangaliev
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Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods
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[HACKERS] Custom compression methods Ildus Kurbangaliev <i.kurbangaliev@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Ildus Kurbangaliev <i.kurbangaliev@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Ildus Kurbangaliev <i.kurbangaliev@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Ildus Kurbangaliev <i.kurbangaliev@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Ildus Kurbangaliev <i.kurbangaliev@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Ildus K <i.kurbangaliev@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Ildus Kurbangaliev <i.kurbangaliev@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Ildus Kurbangaliev <i.kurbangaliev@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Ildus Kurbangaliev <i.kurbangaliev@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Ildus Kurbangaliev <i.kurbangaliev@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Ildus Kurbangaliev <i.kurbangaliev@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
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Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Oleg Bartunov <obartunov@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Ildar Musin <i.musin@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Ildus Kurbangaliev <i.kurbangaliev@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Craig Ringer <craig@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Ildus Kurbangaliev <i.kurbangaliev@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Oleg Bartunov <obartunov@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Ildus Kurbangaliev <i.kurbangaliev@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Ildus Kurbangaliev <i.kurbangaliev@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Евгений Шишкин <itparanoia@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Ildus Kurbangaliev <i.kurbangaliev@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Ildus Kurbangaliev <i.kurbangaliev@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Ildus Kurbangaliev <i.kurbangaliev@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Alexander Korotkov <a.korotkov@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Alexander Korotkov <a.korotkov@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Ildus Kurbangaliev <i.kurbangaliev@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Ildus Kurbangaliev <i.kurbangaliev@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Ildus Kurbangaliev <i.kurbangaliev@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Ildar Musin <i.musin@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Ildus Kurbangaliev <i.kurbangaliev@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Ildar Musin <i.musin@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Ildus Kurbangaliev <i.kurbangaliev@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Ildar Musin <i.musin@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Ildus Kurbangaliev <i.kurbangaliev@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Ildar Musin <i.musin@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Ildus Kurbangaliev <i.kurbangaliev@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Ildus Kurbangaliev <i.kurbangaliev@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Ildus Kurbangaliev <i.kurbangaliev@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Ildus Kurbangaliev <i.kurbangaliev@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Ildus Kurbangaliev <i.kurbangaliev@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Ildus Kurbangaliev <i.kurbangaliev@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Konstantin Knizhnik <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Alexander Korotkov <a.korotkov@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Ildus Kurbangaliev <i.kurbangaliev@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Konstantin Knizhnik <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Alexander Korotkov <a.korotkov@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Konstantin Knizhnik <k.knizhnik@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Ildus Kurbangaliev <i.kurbangaliev@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Alexander Korotkov <a.korotkov@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Ildus Kurbangaliev <i.kurbangaliev@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Ildus Kurbangaliev <i.kurbangaliev@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Alexander Korotkov <a.korotkov@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Ildus Kurbangaliev <i.kurbangaliev@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Ildus Kurbangaliev <i.kurbangaliev@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Dmitry Dolgov <9erthalion6@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Ildus Kurbangaliev <i.kurbangaliev@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Ildus Kurbangaliev <i.kurbangaliev@gmail.com>
Re: Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Alexander Korotkov <a.korotkov@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com>
Re: Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com>
Re: Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com>
Re: Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com>
Re: Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com>
Re: Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Andrey Borodin <x4mmm@yandex-team.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com>
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Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com>
Re: Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Amit Khandekar <amitdkhan.pg@gmail.com>
Re: Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Mark Dilger <mark.dilger@enterprisedb.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com>
Re: Re: Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Ildus Kurbangaliev <i.kurbangaliev@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Chris Travers <chris.travers@adjust.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Chris Travers <chris.travers@adjust.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Alexander Korotkov <a.korotkov@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Alexander Korotkov <a.korotkov@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Ildus K <i.kurbangaliev@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Ildus Kurbangaliev <i.kurbangaliev@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Ildar Musin <ildar@adjust.com>
Re: Re: Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Chris Travers <chris.travers@adjust.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Евгений Шишкин <itparanoia@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Adam Brusselback <adambrusselback@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Ildus Kurbangaliev <i.kurbangaliev@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Alexander Korotkov <a.korotkov@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Oleg Bartunov <obartunov@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Chapman Flack <chap@anastigmatix.net>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Custom compression methods Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 00:23:23 +0100
Tomas Vondra  wrote:

> On 11/15/2017 02:13 PM, Robert Haas wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 4:09 AM, Ildus Kurbangaliev
> >  wrote:  
> >> So in the next version of the patch I can just unlink the options
> >> from compression methods and dropping compression method will not
> >> affect already compressed tuples. They still could be
> >> decompressed.  
> > 
> > I guess I don't understand how that can work.  I mean, if somebody
> > removes a compression method - i.e. uninstalls the library - and you
> > don't have a way to make sure there are no tuples that can only be
> > uncompressed by that library - then you've broken the database.
> > Ideally, there should be a way to add a new compression method via
> > an extension ... and then get rid of it and all dependencies
> > thereupon. 
> 
> I share your confusion. Once you do DROP COMPRESSION METHOD, there
> must be no remaining data compressed with it. But that's what the
> patch is doing already - it enforces this using dependencies, as
> usual.
> 
> Ildus, can you explain what you meant? How could the data still be
> decompressed after DROP COMPRESSION METHOD, and possibly after
> removing the .so library?

The removal of the .so library will broke all compressed tuples. I
don't see a way to avoid it. I meant that DROP COMPRESSION METHOD could
remove the record from 'pg_compression' table, but actually the
compressed tuple needs only a record from 'pg_compression_opt' where
its options are located. And there is dependency between an extension
and the options so you can't just remove the extension without CASCADE,
postgres will complain.

Still it's a problem if the user used for example `SELECT
 INTO * FROM *` because postgres will copy compressed
tuples, and there will not be any dependencies between destination and
the options.

Also thank you for review. I will look into it today.


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Ildus Kurbangaliev
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