Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4
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Bruce Momjian
Тема
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4
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200903191737.n2JHbZU15353@momjian.us
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Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 (Robert Haas)
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Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Gregory Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 decibel <decibel@decibel.org>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Greg Smith <gsmith@gregsmith.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 decibel <decibel@decibel.org>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Gregory Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Gregory Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Gregory Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 decibel <decibel@decibel.org>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Gregory Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Grzegorz Jaśkiewicz <gryzman@gmail.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Ron <rjpeace@earthlink.net>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Gregory Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 decibel <decibel@decibel.org>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Greg Smith <gsmith@gregsmith.com>
8.4 Performance improvements: was Re: Proposal of tunable
fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: 8.4 Performance improvements: was Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Gregory Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: 8.4 Performance improvements: was Re: Proposal of
tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Alan Stange <stange@rentec.com>
Re: 8.4 Performance improvements: was Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: 8.4 Performance improvements: was Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Gregory Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: 8.4 Performance improvements: was Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: 8.4 Performance improvements: was Re: Proposal
of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: 8.4 Performance improvements: was Re: Proposal
of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: 8.4 Performance improvements: was Re: Proposal of
tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: 8.4 Performance improvements: was Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: 8.4 Performance improvements: was Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Gregory Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: 8.4 Performance improvements: was Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Gregory Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: 8.4 Performance improvements: was Re: Proposal of
tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Greg Smith <gsmith@gregsmith.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 david@lang.hm
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Matthew Wakeling <matthew@flymine.org>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Matthew Wakeling <matthew@flymine.org>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Matthew Wakeling <matthew@flymine.org>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Matthew Wakeling <matthew@flymine.org>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Matthew Wakeling <matthew@flymine.org>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Matthew Wakeling <matthew@flymine.org>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Greg Smith <gsmith@gregsmith.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com>
Robert Haas wrote: > > The original poster's request is for a config parameter, for experimentation > > and testing by the brave. My own request was for that version of the lock to > > prevent possible starvation but improve performance by unlocking all shared > > at once, then doing all exclusives one at a time next, etc. > > That doesn't prevent starvation in general, although it will for some workloads. > > Anyway, it seems rather pointless to add a config parameter that isn't > at all safe, and adds overhead to a critical part of the system for > people who don't use it. After all, if you find that it helps, what > are you going to do? Turn it on in production? I just don't see how > this is any good other than as a thought-experiment. We prefer things to be auto-tuned, and if not, it should be clear how/when to set the configuration parameter. -- Bruce Momjian http://momjian.us EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. +
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