Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4

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Bruce Momjian
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Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4
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Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Gregory Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 decibel <decibel@decibel.org>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Greg Smith <gsmith@gregsmith.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 decibel <decibel@decibel.org>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Gregory Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Gregory Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Gregory Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 decibel <decibel@decibel.org>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Gregory Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Grzegorz Jaśkiewicz <gryzman@gmail.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Ron <rjpeace@earthlink.net>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Gregory Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 decibel <decibel@decibel.org>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Greg Smith <gsmith@gregsmith.com>
8.4 Performance improvements: was Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: 8.4 Performance improvements: was Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Gregory Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: 8.4 Performance improvements: was Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Alan Stange <stange@rentec.com>
Re: 8.4 Performance improvements: was Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: 8.4 Performance improvements: was Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Gregory Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: 8.4 Performance improvements: was Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: 8.4 Performance improvements: was Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: 8.4 Performance improvements: was Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: 8.4 Performance improvements: was Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: 8.4 Performance improvements: was Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: 8.4 Performance improvements: was Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Gregory Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: 8.4 Performance improvements: was Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Gregory Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>
Re: 8.4 Performance improvements: was Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Greg Smith <gsmith@gregsmith.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 david@lang.hm
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Matthew Wakeling <matthew@flymine.org>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Matthew Wakeling <matthew@flymine.org>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Matthew Wakeling <matthew@flymine.org>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Matthew Wakeling <matthew@flymine.org>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Matthew Wakeling <matthew@flymine.org>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Matthew Wakeling <matthew@flymine.org>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 "Jignesh K. Shah" <J.K.Shah@Sun.COM>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Greg Smith <gsmith@gregsmith.com>
Re: Proposal of tunable fix for scalability of 8.4 Scott Carey <scott@richrelevance.com>
Robert Haas wrote:
> > The original poster's request is for a config parameter, for experimentation
> > and testing by the brave. My own request was for that version of the lock to
> > prevent possible starvation but improve performance by unlocking all shared
> > at once, then doing all exclusives one at a time next, etc.
> 
> That doesn't prevent starvation in general, although it will for some workloads.
> 
> Anyway, it seems rather pointless to add a config parameter that isn't
> at all safe, and adds overhead to a critical part of the system for
> people who don't use it.  After all, if you find that it helps, what
> are you going to do?  Turn it on in production?  I just don't see how
> this is any good other than as a thought-experiment.

We prefer things to be auto-tuned, and if not, it should be clear
how/when to set the configuration parameter.

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