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[ADMIN] Can master and slave on different PG versions?

От
rammohan ganapavarapu
Дата:
Hi,

Is it possible to add 9.6 version Slave to 9.4 master?

Thanks,
Ram

Re: [ADMIN] Can master and slave on different PG versions?

От
"David G. Johnston"
Дата:
On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 4:06 PM, rammohan ganapavarapu <rammohanganap@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

Is it possible to add 9.6 version Slave to 9.4 master?


​Physical replication, no;  Logical replication, yes - if the software you are using is compatible with both versions.

David J.​

Re: [ADMIN] Can master and slave on different PG versions?

От
Ramesh
Дата:
Generic Rule in all RDBMS.

Always receiving end should be higher.  Means, slave should have higher version than master server.

On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 4:45 AM, David G. Johnston <david.g.johnston@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 4:06 PM, rammohan ganapavarapu <rammohanganap@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

Is it possible to add 9.6 version Slave to 9.4 master?


​Physical replication, no;  Logical replication, yes - if the software you are using is compatible with both versions.

David J.​

Re: [ADMIN] Can master and slave on different PG versions?

От
Scott Marlowe
Дата:
On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 5:06 PM, rammohan ganapavarapu
<rammohanganap@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is it possible to add 9.6 version Slave to 9.4 master?

Standard usage for Slony. I've used it for dozens of upgrades in place
with a few seconds switch over time.  It's not as complex as it first
appears, but test on something other than production please.


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Re: [ADMIN] Can master and slave on different PG versions?

От
rammohan ganapavarapu
Дата:
I am getting this error when i try to add 9.6 slave to 9.4 master.

< 2017-10-09 22:56:31.081 UTC > FATAL: database files are incompatible with server < 2017-10-09 22:56:31.081 UTC > DETAIL: The data directory was initialized by PostgreSQL version 9.4, which is not compatible with this version 9.6.1.

Ram

On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 8:26 AM, Scott Marlowe <scott.marlowe@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 5:06 PM, rammohan ganapavarapu
<rammohanganap@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is it possible to add 9.6 version Slave to 9.4 master?

Standard usage for Slony. I've used it for dozens of upgrades in place
with a few seconds switch over time.  It's not as complex as it first
appears, but test on something other than production please.

Re: [ADMIN] Can master and slave on different PG versions?

От
Scott Marlowe
Дата:
On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 9:49 AM, rammohan ganapavarapu
<rammohanganap@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 8:26 AM, Scott Marlowe <scott.marlowe@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 5:06 PM, rammohan ganapavarapu
>> <rammohanganap@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Is it possible to add 9.6 version Slave to 9.4 master?
>>
>> Standard usage for Slony. I've used it for dozens of upgrades in place
>> with a few seconds switch over time.  It's not as complex as it first
>> appears, but test on something other than production please.

> I am getting this error when i try to add 9.6 slave to 9.4 master.
>
> < 2017-10-09 22:56:31.081 UTC > FATAL: database files are incompatible with
> server < 2017-10-09 22:56:31.081 UTC > DETAIL: The data directory was
> initialized by PostgreSQL version 9.4, which is not compatible with this
> version 9.6.1.

Please don't top post.

So Are you trying to use streaming replication? That won't work. I was
suggesting using Slony for replication if you need to do that.

http://slony.info/documentation/index.html

It's a trigger based replication engine for postgresql designed back
in the early days and useful for replication between different
versions.


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Re: [ADMIN] Can master and slave on different PG versions?

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Scott Mead
Дата:


On Oct 10, 2017, at 11:49, rammohan ganapavarapu <rammohanganap@gmail.com> wrote:

I am getting this error when i try to add 9.6 slave to 9.4 master.

< 2017-10-09 22:56:31.081 UTC > FATAL: database files are incompatible with server < 2017-10-09 22:56:31.081 UTC > DETAIL: The data directory was initialized by PostgreSQL version 9.4, which is not compatible with this version 9.6.1.

Ram

No, you cannot do that with physical streaming replication.  They must be the same major version number. 9.5 -> 9.5.  


On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 8:26 AM, Scott Marlowe <scott.marlowe@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 5:06 PM, rammohan ganapavarapu
<rammohanganap@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is it possible to add 9.6 version Slave to 9.4 master?

Standard usage for Slony. I've used it for dozens of upgrades in place
with a few seconds switch over time.  It's not as complex as it first
appears, but test on something other than production please.

Re: [ADMIN] Can master and slave on different PG versions?

От
rammohan ganapavarapu
Дата:
David,

So initially i have physical replication configured, so to upgrade slave to 9.6 version i did converted master slave to logical replication and then try to upgrade the slave to 9.6. I am getting this error when i try to start the slave. Any idea?


2017-11-08 05:08:49 UTC [20063]: [1-1] user= db= host= LOG:  shutting down
2017-11-08 05:08:49 UTC [20063]: [2-1] user= db= host= LOG:  database system is shut down
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [1-1] user= db= host= LOG:  database system was shut down at 2017-11-08 05:08:55 UTC
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [2-1] user= db= host= LOG:  entering standby mode
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [3-1] user= db= host= WARNING:  WAL was generated with wal_level=minimal, data may be missing
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [4-1] user= db= host= HINT:  This happens if you temporarily set wal_level=minimal without taking a new base backup.
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [5-1] user= db= host= FATAL:  hot standby is not possible because wal_level was not set to "replica" or higher on the master server
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [6-1] user= db= host= HINT:  Either set wal_level to "replica" on the master, or turn off hot_standby here.
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20312]: [3-1] user= db= host= LOG:  startup process (PID 20322) exited with exit code 1
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20312]: [4-1] user= db= host= LOG:  aborting startup due to startup process failure
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20312]: [5-1] user= db= host= LOG:  database system is shut down

Thanks,
Ram



On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 4:15 PM, David G. Johnston <david.g.johnston@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 4:06 PM, rammohan ganapavarapu <rammohanganap@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

Is it possible to add 9.6 version Slave to 9.4 master?


​Physical replication, no;  Logical replication, yes - if the software you are using is compatible with both versions.

David J.​

Re: [ADMIN] Can master and slave on different PG versions?

От
Shreeyansh Dba
Дата:


On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Shreeyansh Dba <shreeyansh2014@gmail.com> wrote:


On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 9:47 PM, rammohan ganapavarapu <rammohanganap@gmail.com> wrote:
David,

So initially i have physical replication configured, so to upgrade slave to 9.6 version i did converted master slave to logical replication and then try to upgrade the slave to 9.6. I am getting this error when i try to start the slave. Any idea?


2017-11-08 05:08:49 UTC [20063]: [1-1] user= db= host= LOG:  shutting down
2017-11-08 05:08:49 UTC [20063]: [2-1] user= db= host= LOG:  database system is shut down
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [1-1] user= db= host= LOG:  database system was shut down at 2017-11-08 05:08:55 UTC
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [2-1] user= db= host= LOG:  entering standby mode
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [3-1] user= db= host= WARNING:  WAL was generated with wal_level=minimal, data may be missing
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [4-1] user= db= host= HINT:  This happens if you temporarily set wal_level=minimal without taking a new base backup.
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [5-1] user= db= host= FATAL:  hot standby is not possible because wal_level was not set to "replica" or higher on the master server
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [6-1] user= db= host= HINT:  Either set wal_level to "replica" on the master, or turn off hot_standby here.
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20312]: [3-1] user= db= host= LOG:  startup process (PID 20322) exited with exit code 1
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20312]: [4-1] user= db= host= LOG:  aborting startup due to startup process failure
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20312]: [5-1] user= db= host= LOG:  database system is shut down

Thanks,
Ram



On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 4:15 PM, David G. Johnston <david.g.johnston@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 4:06 PM, rammohan ganapavarapu <rammohanganap@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

Is it possible to add 9.6 version Slave to 9.4 master?


​Physical replication, no;  Logical replication, yes - if the software you are using is compatible with both versions.

David J.​


In addition to above, Slony also an option for keeping master & slave on different versions which play a key role during upgrades for reducing downtime drastically.


--

Re: [ADMIN] Can master and slave on different PG versions?

От
rammohan ganapavarapu
Дата:
Shreeyansh,

I don't have option to use slony in my environment. So i changed physical replication to logical replication by updating "wal_level = logical" on master and syncked slave with pg_basebackup.  After that i was able to upgrade to 9.6 but when i try to start the slave i am getting "FATAL:  hot standby is not possible because wal_level was not set to "replica" or higher on the master server" error. Any idea how to resolve this?

Thanks,
Ram

On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 11:45 PM, Shreeyansh Dba <shreeyansh2014@gmail.com> wrote:


On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Shreeyansh Dba <shreeyansh2014@gmail.com> wrote:


On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 9:47 PM, rammohan ganapavarapu <rammohanganap@gmail.com> wrote:
David,

So initially i have physical replication configured, so to upgrade slave to 9.6 version i did converted master slave to logical replication and then try to upgrade the slave to 9.6. I am getting this error when i try to start the slave. Any idea?


2017-11-08 05:08:49 UTC [20063]: [1-1] user= db= host= LOG:  shutting down
2017-11-08 05:08:49 UTC [20063]: [2-1] user= db= host= LOG:  database system is shut down
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [1-1] user= db= host= LOG:  database system was shut down at 2017-11-08 05:08:55 UTC
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [2-1] user= db= host= LOG:  entering standby mode
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [3-1] user= db= host= WARNING:  WAL was generated with wal_level=minimal, data may be missing
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [4-1] user= db= host= HINT:  This happens if you temporarily set wal_level=minimal without taking a new base backup.
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [5-1] user= db= host= FATAL:  hot standby is not possible because wal_level was not set to "replica" or higher on the master server
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [6-1] user= db= host= HINT:  Either set wal_level to "replica" on the master, or turn off hot_standby here.
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20312]: [3-1] user= db= host= LOG:  startup process (PID 20322) exited with exit code 1
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20312]: [4-1] user= db= host= LOG:  aborting startup due to startup process failure
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20312]: [5-1] user= db= host= LOG:  database system is shut down

Thanks,
Ram



On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 4:15 PM, David G. Johnston <david.g.johnston@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 4:06 PM, rammohan ganapavarapu <rammohanganap@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

Is it possible to add 9.6 version Slave to 9.4 master?


​Physical replication, no;  Logical replication, yes - if the software you are using is compatible with both versions.

David J.​


In addition to above, Slony also an option for keeping master & slave on different versions which play a key role during upgrades for reducing downtime drastically.


--


Re: [ADMIN] Can master and slave on different PG versions?

От
rammohan ganapavarapu
Дата:
Any one tried  this before?

On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 8:17 AM, rammohan ganapavarapu <rammohanganap@gmail.com> wrote:
David,

So initially i have physical replication configured, so to upgrade slave to 9.6 version i did converted master slave to logical replication and then try to upgrade the slave to 9.6. I am getting this error when i try to start the slave. Any idea?


2017-11-08 05:08:49 UTC [20063]: [1-1] user= db= host= LOG:  shutting down
2017-11-08 05:08:49 UTC [20063]: [2-1] user= db= host= LOG:  database system is shut down
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [1-1] user= db= host= LOG:  database system was shut down at 2017-11-08 05:08:55 UTC
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [2-1] user= db= host= LOG:  entering standby mode
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [3-1] user= db= host= WARNING:  WAL was generated with wal_level=minimal, data may be missing
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [4-1] user= db= host= HINT:  This happens if you temporarily set wal_level=minimal without taking a new base backup.
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [5-1] user= db= host= FATAL:  hot standby is not possible because wal_level was not set to "replica" or higher on the master server
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [6-1] user= db= host= HINT:  Either set wal_level to "replica" on the master, or turn off hot_standby here.
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20312]: [3-1] user= db= host= LOG:  startup process (PID 20322) exited with exit code 1
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20312]: [4-1] user= db= host= LOG:  aborting startup due to startup process failure
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20312]: [5-1] user= db= host= LOG:  database system is shut down

Thanks,
Ram



On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 4:15 PM, David G. Johnston <david.g.johnston@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 4:06 PM, rammohan ganapavarapu <rammohanganap@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

Is it possible to add 9.6 version Slave to 9.4 master?


​Physical replication, no;  Logical replication, yes - if the software you are using is compatible with both versions.

David J.​


Re: [ADMIN] Can master and slave on different PG versions?

От
rammohan ganapavarapu
Дата:
From Slave (9.6): 

Database cluster state:               shut down in recovery
wal_level setting:                    logical

From master (9.4) :

Database cluster state:               in production
Current wal_level setting:            logical

Quite frankly i couldn't find proper document on how to set logical replication in 9.4, i think i am using pg_logical.  All i did was set wal_level to logical and add primary_slot_name in recovery.conf. Do i need to install pglogical extension? i couldn't find one for amazon linux.



Thanks,
Ram

On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 6:12 AM, <gparc@free.fr> wrote:

Hello again,

can you execute pg_controldata command on both Master and Slave
and check the following properties :
Database cluster state
wal_level setting

Also, if I understand correctly, you want to establish logical replication between your 9.4 master
and your 9.6 slave but you don't explain how ? using pg_logical ?

Regards

----- Mail original -----
De: "rammohan ganapavarapu" <rammohanganap@gmail.com>
À: "David G. Johnston" <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>
Cc: pgsql-admin@postgresql.org
Envoyé: Mercredi 15 Novembre 2017 22:23:57
Objet: Re: [ADMIN] Can master and slave on different PG versions?


Any one tried this before?


On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 8:17 AM, rammohan ganapavarapu < rammohanganap@gmail.com > wrote:



David,


So initially i have physical replication configured, so to upgrade slave to 9.6 version i did converted master slave to logical replication and then try to upgrade the slave to 9.6. I am getting this error when i try to start the slave. Any idea?





2017-11-08 05:08:49 UTC [20063]: [1-1] user= db= host= LOG: shutting down
2017-11-08 05:08:49 UTC [20063]: [2-1] user= db= host= LOG: database system is shut down
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [1-1] user= db= host= LOG: database system was shut down at 2017-11-08 05:08:55 UTC
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [2-1] user= db= host= LOG: entering standby mode
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [3-1] user= db= host= WARNING: WAL was generated with wal_level=minimal, data may be missing
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [4-1] user= db= host= HINT: This happens if you temporarily set wal_level=minimal without taking a new base backup.
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [5-1] user= db= host= FATAL: hot standby is not possible because wal_level was not set to "replica" or higher on the master server
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [6-1] user= db= host= HINT: Either set wal_level to "replica" on the master, or turn off hot_standby here.
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20312]: [3-1] user= db= host= LOG: startup process (PID 20322) exited with exit code 1
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20312]: [4-1] user= db= host= LOG: aborting startup due to startup process failure
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20312]: [5-1] user= db= host= LOG: database system is shut down


Thanks,
Ram








On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 4:15 PM, David G. Johnston < david.g.johnston@gmail.com > wrote:




On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 4:06 PM, rammohan ganapavarapu < rammohanganap@gmail.com > wrote:





Hi,


Is it possible to add 9.6 version Slave to 9.4 master?




​Physical replication, no; Logical replication, yes - if the software you are using is compatible with both versions.


David J.​


Re: [ADMIN] Can master and slave on different PG versions?

От
rammohan ganapavarapu
Дата:
Hi,

I was using pg_basebackup to rebuild slave, so pglogical is not in-built in postgres and I have to install?

Thanks


On Nov 17, 2017 12:42 AM, <gparc@free.fr> wrote:

Hello,

How did you create the slave ? with pg_basebackup or via rsync ?
In any case, the slave MUST have been built with a backup/rsync made AFTER the master have been restarted when you changed
wal_level to logical.

Note, that you did so far, set wal_level=logical, is just a prerequisite to use logical replication.
After that, you need a tool which will extract the changes in the WALs from the master and will replay them on the slave.

Such tool is pg_logical : https://www.2ndquadrant.com/en/resources/pglogical/

Regards


----- Mail original -----
De: "rammohan ganapavarapu" <rammohanganap@gmail.com>
À: gparc@free.fr, pgsql-admin@postgresql.org
Envoyé: Jeudi 16 Novembre 2017 17:58:42
Objet: Re: [ADMIN] Can master and slave on different PG versions?


From Slave (9.6):


Database cluster state: shut down in recovery

wal_level setting: logical



From master (9.4) :


Database cluster state: in production

Current wal_level setting: logical



Quite frankly i couldn't find proper document on how to set logical replication in 9.4, i think i am using pg_logical. All i did was set wal_level to logical and add primary_slot_name in recovery.conf. Do i need to install pglogical extension? i couldn't find one for amazon linux.






Thanks,
Ram


On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 6:12 AM, < gparc@free.fr > wrote:



Hello again,

can you execute pg_controldata command on both Master and Slave
and check the following properties :
Database cluster state
wal_level setting

Also, if I understand correctly, you want to establish logical replication between your 9.4 master
and your 9.6 slave but you don't explain how ? using pg_logical ?

Regards

----- Mail original -----
De: "rammohan ganapavarapu" < rammohanganap@gmail.com >
À: "David G. Johnston" < david.g.johnston@gmail.com >
Cc: pgsql-admin@postgresql.org
Envoyé: Mercredi 15 Novembre 2017 22:23:57
Objet: Re: [ADMIN] Can master and slave on different PG versions?




Any one tried this before?


On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 8:17 AM, rammohan ganapavarapu < rammohanganap@gmail.com > wrote:



David,


So initially i have physical replication configured, so to upgrade slave to 9.6 version i did converted master slave to logical replication and then try to upgrade the slave to 9.6. I am getting this error when i try to start the slave. Any idea?





2017-11-08 05:08:49 UTC [20063]: [1-1] user= db= host= LOG: shutting down
2017-11-08 05:08:49 UTC [20063]: [2-1] user= db= host= LOG: database system is shut down
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [1-1] user= db= host= LOG: database system was shut down at 2017-11-08 05:08:55 UTC
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [2-1] user= db= host= LOG: entering standby mode
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [3-1] user= db= host= WARNING: WAL was generated with wal_level=minimal, data may be missing
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [4-1] user= db= host= HINT: This happens if you temporarily set wal_level=minimal without taking a new base backup.
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [5-1] user= db= host= FATAL: hot standby is not possible because wal_level was not set to "replica" or higher on the master server
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [6-1] user= db= host= HINT: Either set wal_level to "replica" on the master, or turn off hot_standby here.
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20312]: [3-1] user= db= host= LOG: startup process (PID 20322) exited with exit code 1
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20312]: [4-1] user= db= host= LOG: aborting startup due to startup process failure
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20312]: [5-1] user= db= host= LOG: database system is shut down


Thanks,
Ram








On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 4:15 PM, David G. Johnston < david.g.johnston@gmail.com > wrote:




On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 4:06 PM, rammohan ganapavarapu < rammohanganap@gmail.com > wrote:





Hi,


Is it possible to add 9.6 version Slave to 9.4 master?




​Physical replication, no; Logical replication, yes - if the software you are using is compatible with both versions.


David J.​



Re: [ADMIN] Can master and slave on different PG versions?

От
rammohan ganapavarapu
Дата:
Gilles,

Thank you, if we set wal_level in version <= 9.6  to "logical" what does it mean what does it do? do we still call it as logical replication? also how to tell if my replication is logical or physical. Please excuse me if i am asking stupid questions :) i am new to Postgres.

Ram

On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 2:20 AM, <gparc@free.fr> wrote:

Hello,

yes, before postgres version 10, you must use an extension such as pg_logical
to build logical replication between master and slave.

For pg_logical, see the following links to help you start :
https://www.2ndquadrant.com/en/resources/pglogical/pglogical-docs/
http://bonesmoses.org/2016/10/14/pg-phriday-perfectly-logical/
https://www.depesz.com/2016/11/08/major-version-upgrading-with-minimal-downtime/

Regards
Gilles


----- Mail original -----
De: "rammohan ganapavarapu" <rammohanganap@gmail.com>
À: gparc@free.fr, pgsql-admin@postgresql.org
Envoyé: Vendredi 17 Novembre 2017 16:43:57
Objet: Re: [ADMIN] Can master and slave on different PG versions?



Hi,


I was using pg_basebackup to rebuild slave, so pglogical is not in-built in postgres and I have to install?


Thanks



On Nov 17, 2017 12:42 AM, < gparc@free.fr > wrote:



Hello,

How did you create the slave ? with pg_basebackup or via rsync ?
In any case, the slave MUST have been built with a backup/rsync made AFTER the master have been restarted when you changed
wal_level to logical.

Note, that you did so far, set wal_level=logical, is just a prerequisite to use logical replication.
After that, you need a tool which will extract the changes in the WALs from the master and will replay them on the slave.

Such tool is pg_logical : https://www.2ndquadrant.com/en/resources/pglogical/


Regards


----- Mail original -----
De: "rammohan ganapavarapu" < rammohanganap@gmail.com >
À: gparc@free.fr , pgsql-admin@postgresql.org
Envoyé: Jeudi 16 Novembre 2017 17:58:42

Objet: Re: [ADMIN] Can master and slave on different PG versions?


From Slave (9.6):


Database cluster state: shut down in recovery

wal_level setting: logical



From master (9.4) :


Database cluster state: in production

Current wal_level setting: logical



Quite frankly i couldn't find proper document on how to set logical replication in 9.4, i think i am using pg_logical. All i did was set wal_level to logical and add primary_slot_name in recovery.conf. Do i need to install pglogical extension? i couldn't find one for amazon linux.






Thanks,
Ram


On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 6:12 AM, < gparc@free.fr > wrote:



Hello again,

can you execute pg_controldata command on both Master and Slave
and check the following properties :
Database cluster state
wal_level setting

Also, if I understand correctly, you want to establish logical replication between your 9.4 master
and your 9.6 slave but you don't explain how ? using pg_logical ?

Regards

----- Mail original -----
De: "rammohan ganapavarapu" < rammohanganap@gmail.com >
À: "David G. Johnston" < david.g.johnston@gmail.com >
Cc: pgsql-admin@postgresql.org
Envoyé: Mercredi 15 Novembre 2017 22:23:57
Objet: Re: [ADMIN] Can master and slave on different PG versions?




Any one tried this before?


On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 8:17 AM, rammohan ganapavarapu < rammohanganap@gmail.com > wrote:



David,


So initially i have physical replication configured, so to upgrade slave to 9.6 version i did converted master slave to logical replication and then try to upgrade the slave to 9.6. I am getting this error when i try to start the slave. Any idea?





2017-11-08 05:08:49 UTC [20063]: [1-1] user= db= host= LOG: shutting down
2017-11-08 05:08:49 UTC [20063]: [2-1] user= db= host= LOG: database system is shut down
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [1-1] user= db= host= LOG: database system was shut down at 2017-11-08 05:08:55 UTC
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [2-1] user= db= host= LOG: entering standby mode
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [3-1] user= db= host= WARNING: WAL was generated with wal_level=minimal, data may be missing
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [4-1] user= db= host= HINT: This happens if you temporarily set wal_level=minimal without taking a new base backup.
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [5-1] user= db= host= FATAL: hot standby is not possible because wal_level was not set to "replica" or higher on the master server
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [6-1] user= db= host= HINT: Either set wal_level to "replica" on the master, or turn off hot_standby here.
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20312]: [3-1] user= db= host= LOG: startup process (PID 20322) exited with exit code 1
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20312]: [4-1] user= db= host= LOG: aborting startup due to startup process failure
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20312]: [5-1] user= db= host= LOG: database system is shut down


Thanks,
Ram








On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 4:15 PM, David G. Johnston < david.g.johnston@gmail.com > wrote:




On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 4:06 PM, rammohan ganapavarapu < rammohanganap@gmail.com > wrote:





Hi,


Is it possible to add 9.6 version Slave to 9.4 master?




​Physical replication, no; Logical replication, yes - if the software you are using is compatible with both versions.


David J.​




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From:        rammohan ganapavarapu <rammohanganap@gmail.com>
To:        gparc@free.fr, pgsql-admin@postgresql.org
Date:        11/20/2017 01:25 PM
Subject:        Re: [ADMIN] Can master and slave on different PG versions?





Gilles,

Thank you, if we set wal_level in version <= 9.6  to "logical" what does it mean what does it do? do we still call it as logical replication? also how to tell if my replication is logical or physical. Please excuse me if i am asking stupid questions :) i am new to Postgres.

Ram

On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 2:20 AM, <gparc@free.fr> wrote:

Hello,

yes, before postgres version 10, you must use an extension such as pg_logical
to build logical replication between master and slave.

For pg_logical, see the following links to help you start :

https://www.2ndquadrant.com/en/resources/pglogical/pglogical-docs/
http://bonesmoses.org/2016/10/14/pg-phriday-perfectly-logical/
https://www.depesz.com/2016/11/08/major-version-upgrading-with-minimal-downtime/

Regards
Gilles


----- Mail original -----
De: "rammohan ganapavarapu" <
rammohanganap@gmail.com>
À:
gparc@free.fr, pgsql-admin@postgresql.org
Envoyé: Vendredi 17 Novembre 2017 16:43:57
Objet: Re: [ADMIN] Can master and slave on different PG versions?



Hi,


I was using pg_basebackup to rebuild slave, so pglogical is not in-built in postgres and I have to install?


Thanks



On Nov 17, 2017 12:42 AM, <
gparc@free.fr> wrote:



Hello,

How did you create the slave ? with pg_basebackup or via rsync ?
In any case, the slave MUST have been built with a backup/rsync made AFTER the master have been restarted when you changed
wal_level to logical.

Note, that you did so far, set wal_level=logical, is just a prerequisite to use logical replication.
After that, you need a tool which will extract the changes in the WALs from the master and will replay them on the slave.

Such tool is pg_logical :
https://www.2ndquadrant.com/en/resources/pglogical/


Regards


----- Mail original -----
De: "rammohan ganapavarapu" <
rammohanganap@gmail.com>
À:
gparc@free.fr, pgsql-admin@postgresql.org
Envoyé: Jeudi 16 Novembre 2017 17:58:42

Objet: Re: [ADMIN] Can master and slave on different PG versions?


From Slave (9.6):


Database cluster state: shut down in recovery

wal_level setting: logical



From master (9.4) :


Database cluster state: in production

Current wal_level setting: logical



Quite frankly i couldn't find proper document on how to set logical replication in 9.4, i think i am using pg_logical. All i did was set wal_level to logical and add primary_slot_name in recovery.conf. Do i need to install pglogical extension? i couldn't find one for amazon linux.






Thanks,
Ram


On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 6:12 AM, <
gparc@free.fr> wrote:



Hello again,

can you execute pg_controldata command on both Master and Slave
and check the following properties :
Database cluster state
wal_level setting

Also, if I understand correctly, you want to establish logical replication between your 9.4 master
and your 9.6 slave but you don't explain how ? using pg_logical ?

Regards

----- Mail original -----
De: "rammohan ganapavarapu" <
rammohanganap@gmail.com>
À: "David G. Johnston" <
david.g.johnston@gmail.com>
Cc:
pgsql-admin@postgresql.org
Envoyé: Mercredi 15 Novembre 2017 22:23:57
Objet: Re: [ADMIN] Can master and slave on different PG versions?




Any one tried this before?


On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 8:17 AM, rammohan ganapavarapu <
rammohanganap@gmail.com> wrote:



David,


So initially i have physical replication configured, so to upgrade slave to 9.6 version i did converted master slave to logical replication and then try to upgrade the slave to 9.6. I am getting this error when i try to start the slave. Any idea?





2017-11-08 05:08:49 UTC [20063]: [1-1] user= db= host= LOG: shutting down
2017-11-08 05:08:49 UTC [20063]: [2-1] user= db= host= LOG: database system is shut down
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [1-1] user= db= host= LOG: database system was shut down at 2017-11-08 05:08:55 UTC
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [2-1] user= db= host= LOG: entering standby mode
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [3-1] user= db= host= WARNING: WAL was generated with wal_level=minimal, data may be missing
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [4-1] user= db= host= HINT: This happens if you temporarily set wal_level=minimal without taking a new base backup.
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [5-1] user= db= host= FATAL: hot standby is not possible because wal_level was not set to "replica" or higher on the master server
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [6-1] user= db= host= HINT: Either set wal_level to "replica" on the master, or turn off hot_standby here.
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20312]: [3-1] user= db= host= LOG: startup process (PID 20322) exited with exit code 1
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20312]: [4-1] user= db= host= LOG: aborting startup due to startup process failure
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20312]: [5-1] user= db= host= LOG: database system is shut down


Thanks,
Ram








On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 4:15 PM, David G. Johnston <
david.g.johnston@gmail.com> wrote:




On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 4:06 PM, rammohan ganapavarapu <
rammohanganap@gmail.com> wrote:





Hi,


Is it possible to add 9.6 version Slave to 9.4 master?




​Physical replication, no; Logical replication, yes - if the software you are using is compatible with both versions.


David J.​






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From:        rammohan ganapavarapu <rammohanganap@gmail.com>
To:        gparc@free.fr, pgsql-admin@postgresql.org
Date:        11/20/2017 01:25 PM
Subject:        Re: [ADMIN] Can master and slave on different PG versions?





Gilles,

Thank you, if we set wal_level in version <= 9.6  to "logical" what does it mean what does it do? do we still call it as logical replication? also how to tell if my replication is logical or physical. Please excuse me if i am asking stupid questions :) i am new to Postgres.

Ram

On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 2:20 AM, <gparc@free.fr> wrote:

Hello,

yes, before postgres version 10, you must use an extension such as pg_logical
to build logical replication between master and slave.

For pg_logical, see the following links to help you start :

https://www.2ndquadrant.com/en/resources/pglogical/pglogical-docs/
http://bonesmoses.org/2016/10/14/pg-phriday-perfectly-logical/
https://www.depesz.com/2016/11/08/major-version-upgrading-with-minimal-downtime/

Regards
Gilles


----- Mail original -----
De: "rammohan ganapavarapu" <
rammohanganap@gmail.com>
À:
gparc@free.fr, pgsql-admin@postgresql.org
Envoyé: Vendredi 17 Novembre 2017 16:43:57
Objet: Re: [ADMIN] Can master and slave on different PG versions?



Hi,


I was using pg_basebackup to rebuild slave, so pglogical is not in-built in postgres and I have to install?


Thanks



On Nov 17, 2017 12:42 AM, <
gparc@free.fr> wrote:



Hello,

How did you create the slave ? with pg_basebackup or via rsync ?
In any case, the slave MUST have been built with a backup/rsync made AFTER the master have been restarted when you changed
wal_level to logical.

Note, that you did so far, set wal_level=logical, is just a prerequisite to use logical replication.
After that, you need a tool which will extract the changes in the WALs from the master and will replay them on the slave.

Such tool is pg_logical :
https://www.2ndquadrant.com/en/resources/pglogical/


Regards


----- Mail original -----
De: "rammohan ganapavarapu" <
rammohanganap@gmail.com>
À:
gparc@free.fr, pgsql-admin@postgresql.org
Envoyé: Jeudi 16 Novembre 2017 17:58:42

Objet: Re: [ADMIN] Can master and slave on different PG versions?


From Slave (9.6):


Database cluster state: shut down in recovery

wal_level setting: logical



From master (9.4) :


Database cluster state: in production

Current wal_level setting: logical



Quite frankly i couldn't find proper document on how to set logical replication in 9.4, i think i am using pg_logical. All i did was set wal_level to logical and add primary_slot_name in recovery.conf. Do i need to install pglogical extension? i couldn't find one for amazon linux.






Thanks,
Ram


On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 6:12 AM, <
gparc@free.fr> wrote:



Hello again,

can you execute pg_controldata command on both Master and Slave
and check the following properties :
Database cluster state
wal_level setting

Also, if I understand correctly, you want to establish logical replication between your 9.4 master
and your 9.6 slave but you don't explain how ? using pg_logical ?

Regards

----- Mail original -----
De: "rammohan ganapavarapu" <
rammohanganap@gmail.com>
À: "David G. Johnston" <
david.g.johnston@gmail.com>
Cc:
pgsql-admin@postgresql.org
Envoyé: Mercredi 15 Novembre 2017 22:23:57
Objet: Re: [ADMIN] Can master and slave on different PG versions?




Any one tried this before?


On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 8:17 AM, rammohan ganapavarapu <
rammohanganap@gmail.com> wrote:



David,


So initially i have physical replication configured, so to upgrade slave to 9.6 version i did converted master slave to logical replication and then try to upgrade the slave to 9.6. I am getting this error when i try to start the slave. Any idea?





2017-11-08 05:08:49 UTC [20063]: [1-1] user= db= host= LOG: shutting down
2017-11-08 05:08:49 UTC [20063]: [2-1] user= db= host= LOG: database system is shut down
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [1-1] user= db= host= LOG: database system was shut down at 2017-11-08 05:08:55 UTC
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [2-1] user= db= host= LOG: entering standby mode
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [3-1] user= db= host= WARNING: WAL was generated with wal_level=minimal, data may be missing
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [4-1] user= db= host= HINT: This happens if you temporarily set wal_level=minimal without taking a new base backup.
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [5-1] user= db= host= FATAL: hot standby is not possible because wal_level was not set to "replica" or higher on the master server
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [6-1] user= db= host= HINT: Either set wal_level to "replica" on the master, or turn off hot_standby here.
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20312]: [3-1] user= db= host= LOG: startup process (PID 20322) exited with exit code 1
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20312]: [4-1] user= db= host= LOG: aborting startup due to startup process failure
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20312]: [5-1] user= db= host= LOG: database system is shut down


Thanks,
Ram








On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 4:15 PM, David G. Johnston <
david.g.johnston@gmail.com> wrote:




On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 4:06 PM, rammohan ganapavarapu <
rammohanganap@gmail.com> wrote:





Hi,


Is it possible to add 9.6 version Slave to 9.4 master?




​Physical replication, no; Logical replication, yes - if the software you are using is compatible with both versions.


David J.​






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From:        rammohan ganapavarapu <rammohanganap@gmail.com>
To:        gparc@free.fr, pgsql-admin@postgresql.org
Date:        11/20/2017 01:25 PM
Subject:        Re: [ADMIN] Can master and slave on different PG versions?





Gilles,

Thank you, if we set wal_level in version <= 9.6  to "logical" what does it mean what does it do? do we still call it as logical replication? also how to tell if my replication is logical or physical. Please excuse me if i am asking stupid questions :) i am new to Postgres.

Ram

On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 2:20 AM, <gparc@free.fr> wrote:

Hello,

yes, before postgres version 10, you must use an extension such as pg_logical
to build logical replication between master and slave.

For pg_logical, see the following links to help you start :

https://www.2ndquadrant.com/en/resources/pglogical/pglogical-docs/
http://bonesmoses.org/2016/10/14/pg-phriday-perfectly-logical/
https://www.depesz.com/2016/11/08/major-version-upgrading-with-minimal-downtime/

Regards
Gilles


----- Mail original -----
De: "rammohan ganapavarapu" <
rammohanganap@gmail.com>
À:
gparc@free.fr, pgsql-admin@postgresql.org
Envoyé: Vendredi 17 Novembre 2017 16:43:57
Objet: Re: [ADMIN] Can master and slave on different PG versions?



Hi,


I was using pg_basebackup to rebuild slave, so pglogical is not in-built in postgres and I have to install?


Thanks



On Nov 17, 2017 12:42 AM, <
gparc@free.fr> wrote:



Hello,

How did you create the slave ? with pg_basebackup or via rsync ?
In any case, the slave MUST have been built with a backup/rsync made AFTER the master have been restarted when you changed
wal_level to logical.

Note, that you did so far, set wal_level=logical, is just a prerequisite to use logical replication.
After that, you need a tool which will extract the changes in the WALs from the master and will replay them on the slave.

Such tool is pg_logical :
https://www.2ndquadrant.com/en/resources/pglogical/


Regards


----- Mail original -----
De: "rammohan ganapavarapu" <
rammohanganap@gmail.com>
À:
gparc@free.fr, pgsql-admin@postgresql.org
Envoyé: Jeudi 16 Novembre 2017 17:58:42

Objet: Re: [ADMIN] Can master and slave on different PG versions?


From Slave (9.6):


Database cluster state: shut down in recovery

wal_level setting: logical



From master (9.4) :


Database cluster state: in production

Current wal_level setting: logical



Quite frankly i couldn't find proper document on how to set logical replication in 9.4, i think i am using pg_logical. All i did was set wal_level to logical and add primary_slot_name in recovery.conf. Do i need to install pglogical extension? i couldn't find one for amazon linux.






Thanks,
Ram


On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 6:12 AM, <
gparc@free.fr> wrote:



Hello again,

can you execute pg_controldata command on both Master and Slave
and check the following properties :
Database cluster state
wal_level setting

Also, if I understand correctly, you want to establish logical replication between your 9.4 master
and your 9.6 slave but you don't explain how ? using pg_logical ?

Regards

----- Mail original -----
De: "rammohan ganapavarapu" <
rammohanganap@gmail.com>
À: "David G. Johnston" <
david.g.johnston@gmail.com>
Cc:
pgsql-admin@postgresql.org
Envoyé: Mercredi 15 Novembre 2017 22:23:57
Objet: Re: [ADMIN] Can master and slave on different PG versions?




Any one tried this before?


On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 8:17 AM, rammohan ganapavarapu <
rammohanganap@gmail.com> wrote:



David,


So initially i have physical replication configured, so to upgrade slave to 9.6 version i did converted master slave to logical replication and then try to upgrade the slave to 9.6. I am getting this error when i try to start the slave. Any idea?





2017-11-08 05:08:49 UTC [20063]: [1-1] user= db= host= LOG: shutting down
2017-11-08 05:08:49 UTC [20063]: [2-1] user= db= host= LOG: database system is shut down
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [1-1] user= db= host= LOG: database system was shut down at 2017-11-08 05:08:55 UTC
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [2-1] user= db= host= LOG: entering standby mode
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [3-1] user= db= host= WARNING: WAL was generated with wal_level=minimal, data may be missing
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [4-1] user= db= host= HINT: This happens if you temporarily set wal_level=minimal without taking a new base backup.
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [5-1] user= db= host= FATAL: hot standby is not possible because wal_level was not set to "replica" or higher on the master server
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20322]: [6-1] user= db= host= HINT: Either set wal_level to "replica" on the master, or turn off hot_standby here.
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20312]: [3-1] user= db= host= LOG: startup process (PID 20322) exited with exit code 1
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20312]: [4-1] user= db= host= LOG: aborting startup due to startup process failure
2017-11-08 05:09:45 UTC [20312]: [5-1] user= db= host= LOG: database system is shut down


Thanks,
Ram








On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 4:15 PM, David G. Johnston <
david.g.johnston@gmail.com> wrote:




On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 4:06 PM, rammohan ganapavarapu <
rammohanganap@gmail.com> wrote:





Hi,


Is it possible to add 9.6 version Slave to 9.4 master?




​Physical replication, no; Logical replication, yes - if the software you are using is compatible with both versions.


David J.​