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Hi, I'm new to postgresql and I'm looking for references and books. We are usually coding in php/C. Can somebody recommend me good books which covers Postgresql 8.x? Which one is worth from following books? 1. PostgreSQL (2nd Edition) by Korry Douglas (Paperback - Jul 26, 2005) 2. Beginning Databases with PostgreSQL: From Novice to Professional, Second Edition (Beginning from Novice to Professional) by Neil Matthew and Richard Stones (Paperback - April 6, 2005) 3. Beginning PHP and PostgreSQL 8: From Novice to Professional by W. Jason Gilmore and Robert H. Treat (Paperback - Feb 27, 2006) 4. Beginning PHP and PostgreSQL E-Commerce: From Novice to Professional (Beginning, from Novice to Professional) by Emilian Balanescu, Mihai Bucica, and Cristian Darie (Paperback - Dec 25, 2006) 5. Beginning PostgreSQL 8 by Edward Lecky-Thompson and Clive Gardner (Paperback - Sep 25, 2006) I'm thinking to buy books published in 2006, but maybe I'm wrong. I appreciate if somebody can point me to the right direction. Also I'm thinking to convert our mysql db and application to postgresql. Is there any method to convert mysql db/app to postgresql, maybe at least DB (tables, indexes, queries)? Are there any tools that can convert php functions and database from mysql to postgresql? thanks in advance, Ganbold
Ganbold, There are man PDF files out there that outline all of the workings of postgresql. They are easy to read, but also have 'deep dive' information in them as well. The PDF's are really valuable, both for the novice and for those who are experienced. I'd start there. Ganbold wrote: > Hi, > > I'm new to postgresql and I'm looking for references and books. We are > usually coding in php/C. > > Can somebody recommend me good books which covers Postgresql 8.x? > > Which one is worth from following books? > > 1. PostgreSQL (2nd Edition) by Korry Douglas (Paperback - Jul 26, 2005) > 2. Beginning Databases with PostgreSQL: From Novice to Professional, > Second Edition (Beginning from Novice to Professional) by Neil Matthew > and Richard Stones (Paperback - April 6, 2005) > 3. Beginning PHP and PostgreSQL 8: From Novice to Professional by W. > Jason Gilmore and Robert H. Treat (Paperback - Feb 27, 2006) > 4. Beginning PHP and PostgreSQL E-Commerce: From Novice to > Professional (Beginning, from Novice to Professional) by Emilian > Balanescu, Mihai Bucica, and Cristian Darie (Paperback - Dec 25, 2006) > 5. Beginning PostgreSQL 8 by Edward Lecky-Thompson and Clive Gardner > (Paperback - Sep 25, 2006) > > I'm thinking to buy books published in 2006, but maybe I'm wrong. > I appreciate if somebody can point me to the right direction. > > Also I'm thinking to convert our mysql db and application to postgresql. > Is there any method to convert mysql db/app to postgresql, maybe at > least DB (tables, indexes, queries)? > Are there any tools that can convert php functions and database from > mysql to postgresql? > > thanks in advance, > > Ganbold > > > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 6: explain analyze is your friend -- Email: louis.gonzales@linuxlouis.net WebSite: http://www.linuxlouis.net "Open the pod bay doors HAL!" -2001: A Space Odyssey "Good morning starshine, the Earth says hello." -Willy Wonka
On Oct 30, 2006, at 03:30 , Ganbold wrote: > Which one is worth from following books? > > 1. PostgreSQL (2nd Edition) by Korry Douglas (Paperback - Jul 26, > 2005) This is a good book. As far as I know it's the most up-to-date general-purpose PostgreSQL book. If you are interested in previewing books online, I recommend O'Reilly's Safari (http://safaribooks.com/), which offers this book and many other PostgreSQL books for browsing and searching. (The 14- day trial membership is free; credit card required -- unless canceled, it automatically switches to a paid subscription after the 14 days). Alexander.
Alexander Staubo wrote: >> Which one is worth from following books? >> >> 1. PostgreSQL (2nd Edition) by Korry Douglas (Paperback - Jul 26, >> 2005) > > This is a good book. As far as I know it's the most up-to-date > general-purpose PostgreSQL book. It covers up to 8.0. It's a little verbose, but I would agree that it is a decent book. Yours, Laurenz Albe
> Alexander Staubo wrote: > >> Which one is worth from following books? > >> > >> 1. PostgreSQL (2nd Edition) by Korry Douglas (Paperback - Jul 26, > >> 2005) > > > > This is a good book. As far as I know it's the most up-to-date > > general-purpose PostgreSQL book. > > It covers up to 8.0. > It's a little verbose, but I would agree that it is a decent book. I would agree with all of the above comment. I will add that it was missing a discussion on Postgresql's Rule system. But if you are interested in connecting to postgresql using one of the many Postgresql protocols it is a very good book to use. Here is a link that corrects some typos in the book: http://www.samspublishing.com/content/images/0672327562/Errata/0672327562errata.pdf Regards, Richard Broersma Jr.
Ganbold wrote: > Hi, > > I'm new to postgresql and I'm looking for references and books. We are > usually coding in php/C. > > Can somebody recommend me good books which covers Postgresql 8.x? > > Which one is worth from following books? > > 1. PostgreSQL (2nd Edition) by Korry Douglas (Paperback - Jul 26, 2005) I highly recommend this book. It's a very thorough coverage of PostgreSQL - the most complete one out there IMHO. We provide this book as supplemental material with our PostgreSQL courses, and before choosing it we examined most of the PostgreSQL books on the market...this one definitely takes the cake. (more below)... > 2. Beginning Databases with PostgreSQL: From Novice to Professional, > Second Edition (Beginning from Novice to Professional) by Neil Matthew > and Richard Stones (Paperback - April 6, 2005) > 3. Beginning PHP and PostgreSQL 8: From Novice to Professional by W. > Jason Gilmore and Robert H. Treat (Paperback - Feb 27, 2006) > 4. Beginning PHP and PostgreSQL E-Commerce: From Novice to > Professional (Beginning, from Novice to Professional) by Emilian > Balanescu, Mihai Bucica, and Cristian Darie (Paperback - Dec 25, 2006) > 5. Beginning PostgreSQL 8 by Edward Lecky-Thompson and Clive Gardner > (Paperback - Sep 25, 2006) > > I'm thinking to buy books published in 2006, but maybe I'm wrong. > I appreciate if somebody can point me to the right direction. > > Also I'm thinking to convert our mysql db and application to postgresql. > Is there any method to convert mysql db/app to postgresql, maybe at > least DB (tables, indexes, queries)? > Are there any tools that can convert php functions and database from > mysql to postgresql? If you wrote your PHP code using one of the abstraction libraries (PEAR::MDB2, PEAR::DB, PDO, ADODB) then it should be relatively easy to do the conversion. If you did not, then it could be time consuming (though not overly difficult). Chander Ganesan Open Technology Group, Inc. One Copley Parkway, Suite 210 Morrisville, NC 27560 Phone: 877-258-8987/919-463-0999 > > thanks in advance, > > Ganbold > > > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 6: explain analyze is your friend
I was new to postgresql and have had to use it with both C and PHP. Having purchased both books, I have found #2 in your list a lot more useful than #1 (don't let the "beginning" title fool you into thinking it's just a 'hello world' book). #2 is better organized for what I'm doing, especially the index. While #1 definitely goes far more in depth on obscure things, #2 has a much better index. And for me, a reference book is only as good as its index; if I have thumb through every page in the book to find something, it's nearly useless as a reference. But that's just my opinion and others might vary. -- Ilan Volow Implicit code is inherently evil, and here's the reason why: On Oct 30, 2006, at 9:10 AM, Chander Ganesan wrote: > Ganbold wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I'm new to postgresql and I'm looking for references and books. We >> are usually coding in php/C. >> >> Can somebody recommend me good books which covers Postgresql 8.x? >> >> Which one is worth from following books? >> >> 1. PostgreSQL (2nd Edition) by Korry Douglas (Paperback - Jul 26, >> 2005) >> 2. Beginning Databases with PostgreSQL: From Novice to >> Professional, Second Edition (Beginning from Novice to >> Professional) by Neil Matthew and Richard Stones (Paperback - >> April 6, 2005) >> 3. Beginning PHP and PostgreSQL 8: From Novice to Professional by >> W. Jason Gilmore and Robert H. Treat (Paperback - Feb 27, 2006) >> 4. Beginning PHP and PostgreSQL E-Commerce: From Novice to >> Professional (Beginning, from Novice to Professional) by Emilian >> Balanescu, Mihai Bucica, and Cristian Darie (Paperback - Dec 25, >> 2006) >> 5. Beginning PostgreSQL 8 by Edward Lecky-Thompson and Clive >> Gardner (Paperback - Sep 25, 2006) >> >> I'm thinking to buy books published in 2006, but maybe I'm wrong. >> I appreciate if somebody can point me to the right direction. >> >> Also I'm thinking to convert our mysql db and application to >> postgresql. >> Is there any method to convert mysql db/app to postgresql, maybe >> at least DB (tables, indexes, queries)? >> Are there any tools that can convert php functions and database >> from mysql to postgresql? > >> >> thanks in advance, >> >> Ganbold >> >> >> >> ---------------------------(end of >> broadcast)--------------------------- >> TIP 6: explain analyze is your friend >
On Mon, Oct 30, 2006 at 09:10:36AM -0500, Chander Ganesan wrote: > Ganbold wrote: > >Hi, > > > >I'm new to postgresql and I'm looking for references and books. We are > >usually coding in php/C. > > > >Can somebody recommend me good books which covers Postgresql 8.x? > > > >Which one is worth from following books? > > > >1. PostgreSQL (2nd Edition) by Korry Douglas (Paperback - Jul 26, 2005) > I highly recommend this book. It's a very thorough coverage of > PostgreSQL - the most complete one out there IMHO. We provide this > book as supplemental material with our PostgreSQL courses, and > before choosing it we examined most of the PostgreSQL books on the > market...this one definitely takes the cake. I heartily second this recommendation. > >Also I'm thinking to convert our mysql db and application to > >postgresql. Is there any method to convert mysql db/app to > >postgresql, maybe at least DB (tables, indexes, queries)? Are > >there any tools that can convert php functions and database from > >mysql to postgresql? > If you wrote your PHP code using one of the abstraction libraries > (PEAR::MDB2, PEAR::DB, PDO, ADODB) then it should be relatively easy > to do the conversion. If you did not, then it could be time > consuming (though not overly difficult). Getting your data into PostgreSQL will not be difficult. However, one reason that people convert to PostgreSQL is to scale up. To do this, you will need to re-design your database to use PostgreSQL's features, and MySQL's non-standard constructs will make this harder. Cheers, D -- David Fetter <david@fetter.org> http://fetter.org/ phone: +1 415 235 3778 AIM: dfetter666 Skype: davidfetter Remember to vote!
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David Fetter wrote:
As lot of people recommend I will definitely buy first book. Also
will consider second book since it seems like easy to read and follow.
Well, this is true. I have to change my "mysql" mind and
start exploring postgresql capabilities and construct everything.
Right now my mysql app only uses a lot of simple select/insert/delete queries,
so I have to change some of those using features like triggers/views/stored
procedures etc. What I'm thinking is first create db and change every PHP mysql functions
into postgresql. Then step by step will try to improve/change queries.
Thanks a lot for all who answered to my questions.
Ganbold
David Fetter wrote:
On Mon, Oct 30, 2006 at 09:10:36AM -0500, Chander Ganesan wrote:Ganbold wrote:Hi, I'm new to postgresql and I'm looking for references and books. We are usually coding in php/C. Can somebody recommend me good books which covers Postgresql 8.x? Which one is worth from following books? 1. PostgreSQL (2nd Edition) by Korry Douglas (Paperback - Jul 26, 2005)I highly recommend this book. It's a very thorough coverage of PostgreSQL - the most complete one out there IMHO. We provide this book as supplemental material with our PostgreSQL courses, and before choosing it we examined most of the PostgreSQL books on the market...this one definitely takes the cake.I heartily second this recommendation.
As lot of people recommend I will definitely buy first book. Also
will consider second book since it seems like easy to read and follow.
Also I'm thinking to convert our mysql db and application to postgresql. Is there any method to convert mysql db/app to postgresql, maybe at least DB (tables, indexes, queries)? Are there any tools that can convert php functions and database from mysql to postgresql?If you wrote your PHP code using one of the abstraction libraries (PEAR::MDB2, PEAR::DB, PDO, ADODB) then it should be relatively easy to do the conversion. If you did not, then it could be time consuming (though not overly difficult).Getting your data into PostgreSQL will not be difficult. However, one reason that people convert to PostgreSQL is to scale up. To do this, you will need to re-design your database to use PostgreSQL's features, and MySQL's non-standard constructs will make this harder.
Well, this is true. I have to change my "mysql" mind and
start exploring postgresql capabilities and construct everything.
Right now my mysql app only uses a lot of simple select/insert/delete queries,
so I have to change some of those using features like triggers/views/stored
procedures etc. What I'm thinking is first create db and change every PHP mysql functions
into postgresql. Then step by step will try to improve/change queries.
Thanks a lot for all who answered to my questions.
Ganbold
Cheers, D
> As lot of people recommend I will definitely buy first book. Also > will consider second book since it seems like easy to read and follow. Don't for get one of the best "books" of all: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.1/interactive/index.html Regards, Richard Broersma Jr.
On Monday 30 October 2006 20:50, Ganbold wrote: > >>> Also I'm thinking to convert our mysql db and application to > >>> postgresql. Is there any method to convert mysql db/app to > >>> postgresql, maybe at least DB (tables, indexes, queries)? Are > >>> there any tools that can convert php functions and database from > >>> mysql to postgresql? > >> > >> If you wrote your PHP code using one of the abstraction libraries > >> (PEAR::MDB2, PEAR::DB, PDO, ADODB) then it should be relatively easy > >> to do the conversion. If you did not, then it could be time > >> consuming (though not overly difficult). > > > > Getting your data into PostgreSQL will not be difficult. > > > > However, one reason that people convert to PostgreSQL is to scale up. > > To do this, you will need to re-design your database to use > > PostgreSQL's features, and MySQL's non-standard constructs will make > > this harder. > > Well, this is true. I have to change my "mysql" mind and > start exploring postgresql capabilities and construct everything. > Right now my mysql app only uses a lot of simple select/insert/delete > queries, > so I have to change some of those using features like > triggers/views/stored procedures etc. What I'm thinking is first create db > and change every PHP mysql functions > into postgresql. Then step by step will try to improve/change queries. > If you have made use of a lot of built in mysql functions, make sure to check out the mysql compat project: http://pgfoundry.org/projects/mysqlcompat/ -- Robert Treat Build A Brighter LAMP :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL
On Monday 30 October 2006 07:55, Richard Broersma Jr wrote: > > Alexander Staubo wrote: > > >> Which one is worth from following books? > > >> > > >> 1. PostgreSQL (2nd Edition) by Korry Douglas (Paperback - Jul 26, > > >> 2005) > > > > > > This is a good book. As far as I know it's the most up-to-date > > > general-purpose PostgreSQL book. > > > > It covers up to 8.0. > > It's a little verbose, but I would agree that it is a decent book. > > I would agree with all of the above comment. I will add that it was > missing a discussion on Postgresql's Rule system. But if you are > interested in connecting to postgresql using one of the many Postgresql > protocols it is a very good book to use. > > Here is a link that corrects some typos in the book: > > http://www.samspublishing.com/content/images/0672327562/Errata/0672327562er >rata.pdf > FWIW there is a chapter with fairly advanced examples of using views and rules in "Beginning PHP and PostgreSQL 8: From Novice to Professional". Also that book lightly touches on some 8.1 topics... 8.1 was in development at the time of the writing, so some things are mentioned, but a lot of 8.1 didn't really apply to PHP programmers. For example, I mention tuning max_prepared_transactions, but the recommendation is simply to set it to 0, since there is almost no chance you'll be using it in PHP so there is no reason to use resources on it. -- Robert Treat Build A Brighter LAMP :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL