Обсуждение: These Lists Are Being Cut To FOUR
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> Hello. My name is Mike Cox. I am in charge of the changing of these > postgresql lists. ... (That was a mock diatribe, correct?) Mike, you are not in charge, you are just leading the point on the RFD since Marc has other priorities. (And believe me, he does.) Take a break from the process for a day. There's no rush. And it really isn't all on your back. If you insist on keeping it that way, the vote will fail, and we'll be back where we were. Are you needing a co-proponent? -- Joel <rees@ddcom.co.jp>
On Nov 10, 2004, at 6:23 PM, Joel wrote: >> Hello. My name is Mike Cox. I am in charge of the changing of these >> postgresql lists. ... > > (That was a mock diatribe, correct?) Joel, I believe these posts are spoofs. Mike has not posted anything along these lines before, and the headers are different from his usual posts. Unless he 'fesses up and claims these posts as his own, I'm more than willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. These mailing list/new group threads have been tense enough as it is. :) Regards, Michael Glaesemann grzm myrealbox com
I'm pretty sure the real poster was not Mike. It's very easy to forge the mail headers, including the From, and comparing this mail with other posts from Mike it's pretty obvious they were written from different places. Cheers, Csaba. On Wed, 2004-11-10 at 10:23, Joel wrote: > > Hello. My name is Mike Cox. I am in charge of the changing of these > > postgresql lists. ... > > (That was a mock diatribe, correct?) > > Mike, you are not in charge, you are just leading the point on the RFD > since Marc has other priorities. (And believe me, he does.) > > Take a break from the process for a day. There's no rush. And it really > isn't all on your back. If you insist on keeping it that way, the vote > will fail, and we'll be back where we were. > > Are you needing a co-proponent?
> ... > I believe these posts are spoofs. Mike has not posted anything along > these lines before, and the headers are different from his usual posts. Hmm. >>> X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER Non-encoded 8-bit data (char DD hex) in message header 'X-Mailer' X-Mailer: B\335ANet.org\n ^ Yeah, I think I'm going to agree with you on that. The tone is definitely a little over the top compared to what he's posted before. I should have checked the headers. > Unless he 'fesses up and claims these posts as his own, I'm more than > willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. These mailing list/new > group threads have been tense enough as it is. :) Even if he were to claim it, I'd still give him the benefit of the doubt. Polarhound seems to be enjoying a little pyromania in news.groups. But we probably do need someone from the mail list to go co-proponent with Mike. Unless, of course, the majority of the list would prefer to keep the status quo. -- Joel <rees@ddcom.co.jp>
Richard Huxton wrote > Joel wrote: > > > > But we probably do need someone from the mail list to go co-proponent > > with Mike. > > > > Unless, of course, the majority of the list would prefer to keep the > > status quo. > > I must admit I'm not clear what difference this makes to those of us > subscribed to the mailing lists. Is the following correct? > > 1. We already have a news<=>mail gateway > 2. The namespace is not officially recognised which means many news > servers don't provide a feed. > 3. Mike Cox would like to go through the process to get some of these > names in the official hierarchy, thus spreading access > 4. All lists will continue to be available via news.postgresql.org > > If so, it seems that the only difference I (as a mail-based user) will > see is more people posting via newsgroups rather than email. > > Am I missing something here? No, not really. It raises the profile of the project a bit, makes access to PostGreSQL a little easier for people who find usenet easier or cheaper to use than mailing lists. I don't think it's worth distracting the developers over it, but if some of the users have some spare time to push it through, it might be worth the effort. And it would show support for usenet policy. Good neighbor stuff, you know. Karma, as they say. -- Joel <rees@ddcom.co.jp>
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004, Michael Glaesemann wrote: > > On Nov 10, 2004, at 6:23 PM, Joel wrote: > >>> Hello. My name is Mike Cox. I am in charge of the changing of these >>> postgresql lists. ... >> >> (That was a mock diatribe, correct?) > > Joel, > > I believe these posts are spoofs. Mike has not posted anything along these > lines before, and the headers are different from his usual posts. > > Unless he 'fesses up and claims these posts as his own, I'm more than willing > to give him the benefit of the doubt. These mailing list/new group threads > have been tense enough as it is. :) Agreed from here ... as frustrated as some of Mike's posts have shown him to be, he's never gone "over the edge" that I've seen ... *shrug* ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664
I think this is disgusting. I feel that if someone does not like what Mike is doing the appropriate way of dealing with it would be to post a rational argument. Not to send an obviously forged email with his name on the from line. ""Mike Cox"" <mikecoxlinux@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:20041110072508.17668.qmail@mail3.lidya.net... > Hello. My name is Mike Cox. I am in charge of the changing of these > postgresql lists. I have decided that we are going to drop most of the > lists from the vote. We will only be making 4 lists into real Usenet > newsgroups if we win the election. The rest of the lists are crap and > they take up too much fucking room. Marc was an asshole for stealing > BIG8 newsgroup names without voting. He is an irresponsible piece of > shit scumbag cock-licking anus-eating foreskin-sniffing motherfucking > faggot. He has an ego the size of Dolly Parton's tits. Be sure to vote > yes on all four of these lists or every list will be removed. > > Your support is most appreciated. > > Mike Cox > mikecoxlinux@yahoo.com > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? > > http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faqs/FAQ.html >
Michael Glaesemann <grzm@myrealbox.com> wrote:
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> I believe these posts are spoofs. Mike has not posted anything along
> these lines before, and the headers are different from his usual posts.
I'm sure you're right. There's been some idiot trolling news.groups
for the past several weeks, impersonating other people and posting
this sort of garbage. I didn't check the headers on the phony "Mike"
article, but it's probably the same creep impersonating him. This jerk
has been trying to ruin discussions of several new groups, not just the
comp.databases.postgresql.general discussion. There even have been forged
votes on some newsgroups and forged emails sent to news.groups regulars,
all before the comp.databases.postgresql.general discussion came along.
There apparently is someone (or maybe several people) trying to disrupt
the newsgroup creation process and I'm afraid the postgresql groups are
getting caught in the crossfire.
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Am 2004-11-10 07:25:08, schrieb Mike Cox: > Hello. My name is Mike Cox. I am in charge of the changing of these Please can you shut-up and fuck yourself ? > postgresql lists. I have decided that we are going to drop most of the > lists from the vote. We will only be making 4 lists into real Usenet > newsgroups if we win the election. The rest of the lists are crap and > they take up too much fucking room. Marc was an asshole for stealing > BIG8 newsgroup names without voting. He is an irresponsible piece of Nobody has stolen NEWS-GroupNames. I have the same problem because I run a private newsserver like this one from <news.postgresql.org>. Never I have ask another ISP's for including my Newsgroups into feeds... So postgresql.org and me are legigim newsgroups and it is the responsability of ISP's whether they feed the servers with our NewsGroups or not. > shit scumbag cock-licking anus-eating foreskin-sniffing motherfucking > faggot. He has an ego the size of Dolly Parton's tits. Be sure to vote > yes on all four of these lists or every list will be removed. Removed from what ? The lists are not includes in BIG8. They can not be removed. > Your support is most appreciated. Where do you live ? Are you not reservist in the US-Army ? Don't like to go to Iraq and let you kill ? > Mike Cox > mikecoxlinux@yahoo.com Greetings Michelle -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSM LinuxMichi 0033/3/88452356 67100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com)