Обсуждение: psqlodbc - psqlodbc: Put Autotools-generated files into subdirectory

Log Message:
-----------
Put Autotools-generated files into subdirectory config/; add macro files
used from PostgreSQL there so you don't need a PostgreSQL source tree to
bootstrap the code.

Modified Files:
--------------
    psqlodbc:
        Makefile.am (r1.43 -> r1.44)
        (http://cvs.pgfoundry.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/psqlodbc/psqlodbc/Makefile.am.diff?r1=1.43&r2=1.44)
        configure.ac (r1.67 -> r1.68)
        (http://cvs.pgfoundry.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/psqlodbc/psqlodbc/configure.ac.diff?r1=1.67&r2=1.68)

Added Files:
-----------
    psqlodbc/config:
        general.m4 (r1.1)

(http://cvs.pgfoundry.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/psqlodbc/psqlodbc/config/general.m4?rev=1.1&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup)

User Petere wrote:
> Log Message:
> -----------
> Put Autotools-generated files into subdirectory config/; add macro files
> used from PostgreSQL there so you don't need a PostgreSQL source tree to
> bootstrap the code.

<snip>

>
> Added Files:
> -----------
>     psqlodbc/config:
>         general.m4 (r1.1)

Under what license is this file distributed ?

Hiroshi Inoue wrote:
> User Petere wrote:
>> Log Message:
>> -----------
>> Put Autotools-generated files into subdirectory config/; add macro files
>> used from PostgreSQL there so you don't need a PostgreSQL source tree to
>> bootstrap the code.
>
> <snip>
>
>> Added Files:
>> -----------
>>     psqlodbc/config:
>>         general.m4 (r1.1)
>
> Under what license is this file distributed ?

Could you please reply to my question ?

regards,
Hiroshi Inoue

Hiroshi Inoue wrote:
> Hiroshi Inoue wrote:
> > User Petere wrote:
> >> Log Message:
> >> -----------
> >> Put Autotools-generated files into subdirectory config/; add macro
> >> files used from PostgreSQL there so you don't need a PostgreSQL
> >> source tree to bootstrap the code.
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> >> Added Files:
> >> -----------
> >>     psqlodbc/config:
> >>         general.m4 (r1.1)
> >
> > Under what license is this file distributed ?
>
> Could you please reply to my question ?

It's from the PostgreSQL source tree, so whatever license that has.

--
Peter Eisentraut
http://developer.postgresql.org/~petere/

Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> Hiroshi Inoue wrote:
>> Hiroshi Inoue wrote:
>>> User Petere wrote:
>>>> Log Message:
>>>> -----------
>>>> Put Autotools-generated files into subdirectory config/; add macro
>>>> files used from PostgreSQL there so you don't need a PostgreSQL
>>>> source tree to bootstrap the code.
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>> Added Files:
>>>> -----------
>>>>     psqlodbc/config:
>>>>         general.m4 (r1.1)
>>> Under what license is this file distributed ?
>> Could you please reply to my question ?
>
> It's from the PostgreSQL source tree, so whatever license that has.

So what's it ?
Could you please take account of developers in the psqlodbc project
a little more ?

On May 6, 2007, at 4:38 PM, Hiroshi Inoue wrote:
>>>> Under what license is this file distributed ?
>>> Could you please reply to my question ?
>>
>> It's from the PostgreSQL source tree, so whatever license that has.
>
> So what's it ?
> Could you please take account of developers in the psqlodbc project
> a little more ?

decibel@platter.1[10:59]~/pgsql/HEAD:61%cat COPYRIGHT
PostgreSQL Database Management System
(formerly known as Postgres, then as Postgres95)

Portions Copyright (c) 1996-2007, PostgreSQL Global Development Group

Portions Copyright (c) 1994, The Regents of the University of California

Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software and its
documentation for any purpose, without fee, and without a written
agreement
is hereby granted, provided that the above copyright notice and this
paragraph and the following two paragraphs appear in all copies.

IN NO EVENT SHALL THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA BE LIABLE TO ANY PARTY
FOR
DIRECT, INDIRECT, SPECIAL, INCIDENTAL, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES,
INCLUDING
LOST PROFITS, ARISING OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE AND ITS
DOCUMENTATION, EVEN IF THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA HAS BEEN ADVISED
OF THE
POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE.

THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA SPECIFICALLY DISCLAIMS ANY WARRANTIES,
INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY
AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  THE SOFTWARE PROVIDED
HEREUNDER IS
ON AN "AS IS" BASIS, AND THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA HAS NO
OBLIGATIONS TO
PROVIDE MAINTENANCE, SUPPORT, UPDATES, ENHANCEMENTS, OR MODIFICATIONS.
decibel@platter.1[10:59]~/pgsql/HEAD:62%

--
Jim Nasby                                            jim@nasby.net
EnterpriseDB      http://enterprisedb.com      512.569.9461 (cell)

I've not seen your reply yet.
Do you have a mind to cooperate with us ?

I wrote:
> Peter Eisentraut wrote:
>> Hiroshi Inoue wrote:
>>> Hiroshi Inoue wrote:
>>>> User Petere wrote:
>>>>> Log Message:
>>>>> -----------
>>>>> Put Autotools-generated files into subdirectory config/; add macro
>>>>> files used from PostgreSQL there so you don't need a PostgreSQL
>>>>> source tree to bootstrap the code.
>>>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>>> Added Files:
>>>>> -----------
>>>>>     psqlodbc/config:
>>>>>         general.m4 (r1.1)
>>>> Under what license is this file distributed ?
>>> Could you please reply to my question ?
>> It's from the PostgreSQL source tree, so whatever license that has.
>
> So what's it ?
> Could you please take account of developers in the psqlodbc project
> a little more ?

Maybe it's BSD which is different from the license of psqlodbc (LGPL).
Is there no problem with their coexistence ?
Or is it possible for psqlodbc to be LGPL entirely ?

Thanks a lot.
Hiroshi Inoue

Jim Nasby wrote:
> On May 6, 2007, at 4:38 PM, Hiroshi Inoue wrote:
>>>>> Under what license is this file distributed ?
>>>> Could you please reply to my question ?
>>>
>>> It's from the PostgreSQL source tree, so whatever license that has.
>>
>> So what's it ?
>> Could you please take account of developers in the psqlodbc project
>> a little more ?
>
> decibel@platter.1[10:59]~/pgsql/HEAD:61%cat COPYRIGHT
> PostgreSQL Database Management System
> (formerly known as Postgres, then as Postgres95)
>
> Portions Copyright (c) 1996-2007, PostgreSQL Global Development Group
>
> Portions Copyright (c) 1994, The Regents of the University of California
>
> Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software and its
> documentation for any purpose, without fee, and without a written agreement
> is hereby granted, provided that the above copyright notice and this
> paragraph and the following two paragraphs appear in all copies.
>
> IN NO EVENT SHALL THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA BE LIABLE TO ANY PARTY FOR
> DIRECT, INDIRECT, SPECIAL, INCIDENTAL, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES, INCLUDING
> LOST PROFITS, ARISING OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE AND ITS
> DOCUMENTATION, EVEN IF THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA HAS BEEN ADVISED OF THE
> POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE.
>
> THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA SPECIFICALLY DISCLAIMS ANY WARRANTIES,
> INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY
> AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  THE SOFTWARE PROVIDED HEREUNDER IS
> ON AN "AS IS" BASIS, AND THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA HAS NO OBLIGATIONS TO
> PROVIDE MAINTENANCE, SUPPORT, UPDATES, ENHANCEMENTS, OR MODIFICATIONS.
> decibel@platter.1[10:59]~/pgsql/HEAD:62%
>
> --
> Jim Nasby                                            jim@nasby.net
> EnterpriseDB      http://enterprisedb.com      512.569.9461 (cell)

Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> Hiroshi Inoue wrote:
>> I've not seen your reply yet.
>
> You keep sending your emails to randomly invented addresses, so I don't
> get them.

Must I mail them directly to you in the first place ?
I'm sending the emails to pgsql-committes and pgsql-hackers also.
Please note that the question is to your recent sudden change to
psqlodbc.

regards,
Hiroshi Inoue

Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> Andrew Dunstan wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hiroshi Inoue wrote:
>>> Maybe it's BSD which is different from the license of psqlodbc (LGPL).
>>> Is there no problem with their coexistence ?
>>> Or is it possible for psqlodbc to be LGPL entirely ?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I am having difficulty in understanding what the problem is. My
>> understanding is that using BSD licensed code is ok in an LGPL
>> project, but (probably) not vice versa.
>
> To my knowledge you can do it either way, as long as you remember that
> any changes to the lgpl code have to be released.

Could you tell me a recommendation ?
I feel completely LGPL one is simpler.

Thanks.

Hiroshi Inoue

Hiroshi Inoue wrote:
> Joshua D. Drake wrote:
>> Andrew Dunstan wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hiroshi Inoue wrote:
>>>> Maybe it's BSD which is different from the license of psqlodbc (LGPL).
>>>> Is there no problem with their coexistence ?
>>>> Or is it possible for psqlodbc to be LGPL entirely ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I am having difficulty in understanding what the problem is. My
>>> understanding is that using BSD licensed code is ok in an LGPL
>>> project, but (probably) not vice versa.
>>
>> To my knowledge you can do it either way, as long as you remember that
>> any changes to the lgpl code have to be released.
>
> Could you tell me a recommendation ?
> I feel completely LGPL one is simpler.

If you are asking me, which code you should release under, I would
suggest the LGPL as the psqlodbc driver is licensed under the LGPL.

Joshua D. Drake

>
> Thanks.
>
> Hiroshi Inoue
>

Hiroshi Inoue wrote:
> I've not seen your reply yet.

You keep sending your emails to randomly invented addresses, so I don't
get them.

I think your questions have been answered in the meantime.  If not,
please address them to me.

--
Peter Eisentraut
http://developer.postgresql.org/~petere/

Am Dienstag, 8. Mai 2007 01:45 schrieb Hiroshi Inoue:
> Must I mail them directly to you in the first place ?

Yes.

> Please note that the question is to your recent sudden change to
> psqlodbc.

These are the same files that psqlodbc has been shipping for years.  Just now
they are in the CVS repository, to address Tom Lane's concern about being
able to reproduce the build.

--
Peter Eisentraut
http://developer.postgresql.org/~petere/