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SQL Server 2000 to PostgreSQL 8.0.3

От
"josh@segrestfarms.com"
Дата:
Greetings.

I am having difficulty moving a SQL Server 2000 database over to
PostgreSQL 8.0.3.

In SQL Server, I am performing a backup of the database I want to move.
I save that backup on my Desktop.

I am then opening up PGAdminIII and attempting to perform a Restore of
the database saved on my Desktop.  The first step I take is to create a
new database, MyDB.  Next, I highlight my new database and then select
Restore from the Tools menu.  The Restore Database window pops up and I
Browse to the database backup I've saved on my Desktop.  After selecting
the backup, the 'OK' button stays grayed and I am unable to proceed.

Any ideas as to how I can work around this?  Thanks in advance.


Josh in Tampa

Re: SQL Server 2000 to PostgreSQL 8.0.3

От
"Joel Fradkin"
Дата:
I am pretty sure a backup from sql is not going to restore on postgres.
I wrote a .net application that read from one and wrote to the other.
Does not like tables large then memory available though, since npgsql .net
components by default uses a read whole table approach (there is a cursor
way, but I never got that implemented).

If you are .net savy and want the source for the conversion let me know and
I will forward off list.

I am sure there are other methods as well (maybe dump to a csv file and try
reading that with aqua studio).

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-----Original Message-----
From: pgsql-admin-owner@postgresql.org
[mailto:pgsql-admin-owner@postgresql.org] On Behalf Of josh@segrestfarms.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 8:37 AM
To: pgsql-admin@postgresql.org
Subject: [ADMIN] SQL Server 2000 to PostgreSQL 8.0.3

Greetings.

I am having difficulty moving a SQL Server 2000 database over to
PostgreSQL 8.0.3.

In SQL Server, I am performing a backup of the database I want to move.
I save that backup on my Desktop.

I am then opening up PGAdminIII and attempting to perform a Restore of
the database saved on my Desktop.  The first step I take is to create a
new database, MyDB.  Next, I highlight my new database and then select
Restore from the Tools menu.  The Restore Database window pops up and I
Browse to the database backup I've saved on my Desktop.  After selecting
the backup, the 'OK' button stays grayed and I am unable to proceed.

Any ideas as to how I can work around this?  Thanks in advance.


Josh in Tampa

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Re: SQL Server 2000 to PostgreSQL 8.0.3

От
James Herbers
Дата:
josh@segrestfarms.com wrote:

> Greetings.
>
> I am having difficulty moving a SQL Server 2000 database over to
> PostgreSQL 8.0.3.
>
> In SQL Server, I am performing a backup of the database I want to
> move.  I save that backup on my Desktop.
>
That backup is in Microsofts own format, PostgreSQL will not be able to
read this.

> I am then opening up PGAdminIII and attempting to perform a Restore of
> the database saved on my Desktop.  The first step I take is to create
> a new database, MyDB.  Next, I highlight my new database and then
> select Restore from the Tools menu.  The Restore Database window pops
> up and I Browse to the database backup I've saved on my Desktop.
> After selecting the backup, the 'OK' button stays grayed and I am
> unable to proceed.
>
> Any ideas as to how I can work around this?  Thanks in advance.

Use a program such as  Aqua Data Studio (http://www.aquafold.com) to
connect to the MSSQL db and export the data as INSERT statements. Then
run the sql in PGAdmin.

>
>
> Josh in Tampa
>
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Re: SQL Server 2000 to PostgreSQL 8.0.3

От
"Joel Fradkin"
Дата:
Only thing you may run into moving data is field types.
I had to convert my bit fields to binary and my datestammp to timestamp.
I would just be sure the field types are supported or you may have to do a
search replace on the text file created by aquastudio.

Although when I used aqua I exported using aqua and used pgadmin to do the
inserts so I had to also change their go to a ; (which was actually an
option on the export page I did not see at first).

Best of luck with the conversion.

Also here is my cheat sheet of stuff I looked at often while converting it
involves some sql differences.
The isnull is now coalesce, and date diff is a just math, so I had to
reverse the order of my date diffs and convert to date - date


date_part('epoch',date-date) returns in secs so /60

  to_char( i.opendate,'yyyy') as year,
  to_char( i.opendate,'q') as quarter,
  to_char( i.opendate,'MM') as month,
  to_char( i.opendate,'D') as weekday,
  to_char( i.opendate,'WW') as week,
  to_char( i.opendate,'HH24:MI') as time


coalesce(to_char(tblresponsesection.feedbackcompleteddate,'Mon DD YYYY'),
'not completed') as completed

Left 105 chars                      substring(tblquestions.question,1,105)
as question,

Right 5 chars                      substring(c.casenum::text, 1, 11),
length("substring"(c.casenum::text, 1, 11))-5, 5)

                      coalesce(c.apprehdate, c.opendate) as apprehdate,

                      to_char( coalesce(c.apprehdate,c.opendate),'yyyy') as
year,

                      to_char( coalesce(c.apprehdate, c.opendate),'q') as
quarter,

                      to_char( coalesce(c.apprehdate, c.opendate),'MM') as
month,

                      to_char( coalesce(c.apprehdate, c.opendate),'D') as
weekday,

                      to_char( coalesce(c.apprehdate, c.opendate),'WW') as
week,

                      to_char( coalesce(c.apprehdate, c.opendate),'HH24:MI')
as time,

~* is a  = that is not case sensitive same as = is mssql
ilike is a case insensitive like

current_timestamp

SET ENABLE_SEQSCAN=FALSE;
You will want to get used to doing
explain analyze in front of your sql to see what you may need to modify or
key. I would subscribe to the performance list sql list to see how folks do
stuff. I had to de-normalize some of my larger tables sets and now my
performance is as good as my SQL server was.
Ex: explain analyze select * from tblcase where clientnum = 'WAZ' select *
from tblcase where clientnum = 'WAZ'
Will display the joins etc involved in getting the data.


Joel Fradkin

-----Original Message-----
From: pgsql-admin-owner@postgresql.org
[mailto:pgsql-admin-owner@postgresql.org] On Behalf Of josh@segrestfarms.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 8:37 AM
To: pgsql-admin@postgresql.org
Subject: [ADMIN] SQL Server 2000 to PostgreSQL 8.0.3

Greetings.

I am having difficulty moving a SQL Server 2000 database over to
PostgreSQL 8.0.3.

In SQL Server, I am performing a backup of the database I want to move.
I save that backup on my Desktop.

I am then opening up PGAdminIII and attempting to perform a Restore of
the database saved on my Desktop.  The first step I take is to create a
new database, MyDB.  Next, I highlight my new database and then select
Restore from the Tools menu.  The Restore Database window pops up and I
Browse to the database backup I've saved on my Desktop.  After selecting
the backup, the 'OK' button stays grayed and I am unable to proceed.

Any ideas as to how I can work around this?  Thanks in advance.


Josh in Tampa

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Re: SQL Server 2000 to PostgreSQL 8.0.3

От
"Goulet, Dick"
Дата:
Check out WinSql
(http://www.synametrics.com/SynametricsWebApp/WinSQL.jsp)  It has the
ability to extract data from Sql*Sucker and drop it into PostGreSql, and
you can have that functionality free for 90 days to boot.

-----Original Message-----
From: pgsql-admin-owner@postgresql.org
[mailto:pgsql-admin-owner@postgresql.org] On Behalf Of
josh@segrestfarms.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 8:37 AM
To: pgsql-admin@postgresql.org
Subject: [ADMIN] SQL Server 2000 to PostgreSQL 8.0.3

Greetings.

I am having difficulty moving a SQL Server 2000 database over to
PostgreSQL 8.0.3.

In SQL Server, I am performing a backup of the database I want to move.

I save that backup on my Desktop.

I am then opening up PGAdminIII and attempting to perform a Restore of
the database saved on my Desktop.  The first step I take is to create a
new database, MyDB.  Next, I highlight my new database and then select
Restore from the Tools menu.  The Restore Database window pops up and I
Browse to the database backup I've saved on my Desktop.  After selecting

the backup, the 'OK' button stays grayed and I am unable to proceed.

Any ideas as to how I can work around this?  Thanks in advance.


Josh in Tampa

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Re: SQL Server 2000 to PostgreSQL 8.0.3

От
Ben Kim
Дата:
Here's my 2 cents.

If you have access to DTS in SQL Server 2000, it will be one convenient
solution for simple transfer.

It's a matter of creating a new task, defining the SQL Server database as
source and PostgreSQL database as destination, and clicking through. There
will be some mismatches in data types, but you can convert data using
scripts inisde the DTS task on the fly.


Regards,

Ben Kim
Developer
College of Education
Texas A&M University


Re: SQL Server 2000 to PostgreSQL 8.0.3

От
"josh@segrestfarms.com"
Дата:
I have successfully moved the schema over to PostgreSQL.

Now I am working on the data.

In reviewing my tables, I found that for some strange reason a handful
of fields are not double-quoted.  Strange quirk:

-- Table: "Orders"

-- DROP TABLE "Orders";

CREATE TABLE "Orders"
(
  "OrderID" int4 NOT NULL,
  "CustomerID" int4 NOT NULL,
  "DateCreated" timestamptz,
  "TotalPrice" numeric(19,4),
  "ShipAddressID" int4,
  "ShipDate" timestamptz,
  "ShippingMethod" varchar(50),
  "sfrepID" varchar(50),
  "StatusID" int4,
  "TrackingNumber" varchar(50),
  ponumber varchar(50),      <--------------HERE
  "Comment" char(254),
  "sfOrderNumber" varchar(50),
  "UpdateDate" timestamptz
)
WITH OIDS;
ALTER TABLE "Orders" OWNER TO postgres;

What to make of this strangeness?

Ben Kim wrote:

>Here's my 2 cents.
>
>If you have access to DTS in SQL Server 2000, it will be one convenient
>solution for simple transfer.
>
>It's a matter of creating a new task, defining the SQL Server database as
>source and PostgreSQL database as destination, and clicking through. There
>will be some mismatches in data types, but you can convert data using
>scripts inisde the DTS task on the fly.
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Ben Kim
>Developer
>College of Education
>Texas A&M University
>
>
>
>
>

Re: SQL Server 2000 to PostgreSQL 8.0.3

От
Ben Kim
Дата:
>In reviewing my tables, I found that for some strange reason a handful
>of fields are not double-quoted.  Strange quirk:
>-- Table: "Orders"
>
>-- DROP TABLE "Orders";
>
>CREATE TABLE "Orders"
>(
>  "OrderID" int4 NOT NULL,
>  "CustomerID" int4 NOT NULL,
>  "DateCreated" timestamptz,
>  "TotalPrice" numeric(19,4),
>  "ShipAddressID" int4,
>  "ShipDate" timestamptz,
>  "ShippingMethod" varchar(50),
>  "sfrepID" varchar(50),
>  "StatusID" int4,
>  "TrackingNumber" varchar(50),
>  ponumber varchar(50),      <--------------HERE
>  "Comment" char(254),
>  "sfOrderNumber" varchar(50),
>  "UpdateDate" timestamptz
>)
>WITH OIDS;
>ALTER TABLE "Orders" OWNER TO postgres;

In my case, DTS's "create" always wrapped the field names with double
quote. The script seems to me not from DTS.


Regards,

Ben Kim
Developer
College of Education
Texas A&M University


Re: SQL Server 2000 to PostgreSQL 8.0.3

От
Tom Lane
Дата:
Ben Kim <bkim@coe.tamu.edu> writes:
>> In reviewing my tables, I found that for some strange reason a handful
>> of fields are not double-quoted.  Strange quirk:
>> ...

> In my case, DTS's "create" always wrapped the field names with double
> quote. The script seems to me not from DTS.

I think it's from pg_dump.  pg_dump (and most other PG-related tools)
will only quote names that need to be quoted per the PG rules ...
in other words, if it's all lower case, it does not need quotes.

            regards, tom lane

Re: SQL Server 2000 to PostgreSQL 8.0.3

От
"josh@segrestfarms.com"
Дата:
I have successfully migrated my db from SQL Server to PostgreSQL.  (Aqua
Data Studio 4.0 did the trick)

Now, I need to move this PG db from its current installation on Windows
over to my RedHat box.

So, I performed a Backup on my Windows machine and saved the .backup
file to my Windows Desktop.

I used WinSCP to copy the .backup file from my Windows Desktop over to
my RedHat root/Desktop.

Then I swivel over to my RedHat machine and I open up PGAdminIII
(excited because I'm thinking I've about got this migration complete)
and unfortunately under the Tools menu, the Backup and Restore
selections are disabled (grayed out).

And so I'm a little stumped.  Surely there is a workaround, but I have
yet to discover it.

Thanks in advance for any help you might be able provide.

Tom Lane wrote:

>Ben Kim <bkim@coe.tamu.edu> writes:
>
>
>>>In reviewing my tables, I found that for some strange reason a handful
>>>of fields are not double-quoted.  Strange quirk:
>>>...
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>>In my case, DTS's "create" always wrapped the field names with double
>>quote. The script seems to me not from DTS.
>>
>>
>
>I think it's from pg_dump.  pg_dump (and most other PG-related tools)
>will only quote names that need to be quoted per the PG rules ...
>in other words, if it's all lower case, it does not need quotes.
>
>            regards, tom lane
>
>
>
>

Re: SQL Server 2000 to PostgreSQL 8.0.3

От
"Joshua D. Drake"
Дата:
josh@segrestfarms.com wrote:
> I have successfully migrated my db from SQL Server to PostgreSQL.  (Aqua
> Data Studio 4.0 did the trick)

If you are comfortable with Aquastudio then just Aquastudio to push it
to your Linux box :)

Sincerely,

Joshua D. Drake



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Re: SQL Server 2000 to PostgreSQL 8.0.3

От
Sergey Moiseev
Дата:
josh@segrestfarms.com wrote:

> I am having difficulty moving a SQL Server 2000 database over to
> PostgreSQL 8.0.3.
>
> In SQL Server, I am performing a backup of the database I want to move.
> I save that backup on my Desktop.
>
> I am then opening up PGAdminIII and attempting to perform a Restore of
> the database saved on my Desktop.  The first step I take is to create a
> new database, MyDB.  Next, I highlight my new database and then select
> Restore from the Tools menu.  The Restore Database window pops up and I
> Browse to the database backup I've saved on my Desktop.  After selecting
> the backup, the 'OK' button stays grayed and I am unable to proceed.

As already mentioned, there is no unified backups for DBMS. You may move
structure and data, but not stored procedures and triggers, by
installing postgresql-odbc on mssql server machine and using
export/import tools from enterprise manager of mssql to export from
mssql and import into postgresql-odbc connection.

For user types, triggers, storeds you'll need to do rewrite it by hands.
--
Wbr, Sergey Moiseev