Re: Re: Proposal: Store "timestamptz" of database creation on "pg_database"

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От Hannu Krosing
Тема Re: Re: Proposal: Store "timestamptz" of database creation on "pg_database"
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Ответ на Re: Proposal: Store "timestamptz" of database creation on "pg_database"  (Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>)
Ответы Re: Re: Proposal: Store "timestamptz" of database creation on "pg_database"  (Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>)
Re: Re: Proposal: Store "timestamptz" of database creation on "pg_database"  (Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>)
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On 01/03/2013 11:18 AM, Andres Freund wrote:
> On 2013-01-03 11:03:17 +0100, Hannu Krosing wrote:
>> On 12/28/2012 03:14 AM, Stephen Frost wrote:
>> ...
>>> I agree that what I was suggesting would be possible to implement with
>>> event triggers, but I see that as a rather advanced feature that most
>>> users aren't going to understand or implement. At the same time, those
>>> more novice users are likely to be looking for this kind of information-
>>> being told "oh, well, you *could* have been collecting it all along if you
>>> knew about event triggers" isn't a particularly satisfying answer. That's
>>> my 2c on it. I agree that having the example in the docs would be nice-
>>> examples are always good things to include.
>> If what you want is something close to current unix file time semantics
>> (ctime, mtime, atime) then why not just create a function to look up these
>> attributes on database directory and/or database files ?
> Because too many things change those. Moving to a different tablespace,
> a rewriting ALTER TABLE, etc.
Can't we actually fix these to preserve file creation date like tar does 
and still keep
unix file semantics ?

So it is as about agreeing on what we actually want this "create time"
mean opening a can of worms as tom predicted ?

For example, how would this work in replication context ?

> Greetings,
>
> Andres Freund
>
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