Re: How much do the hint bits help?

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Re: How much do the hint bits help?
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How much do the hint bits help? Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Re: How much do the hint bits help? Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: How much do the hint bits help? Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
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Re: How much do the hint bits help? Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
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Re: How much do the hint bits help? Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
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Re: How much do the hint bits help? Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: CRC checks WAS: How much do the hint bits help? Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: How much do the hint bits help? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: How much do the hint bits help? Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: How much do the hint bits help? Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>
Re: How much do the hint bits help? Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Re: How much do the hint bits help? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: How much do the hint bits help? Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Re: How much do the hint bits help? Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: How much do the hint bits help? Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: How much do the hint bits help? Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Re: How much do the hint bits help? Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: How much do the hint bits help? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: How much do the hint bits help? Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: How much do the hint bits help? Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Re: How much do the hint bits help? Mark Kirkwood <mark.kirkwood@catalyst.net.nz>
Re: How much do the hint bits help? Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: How much do the hint bits help? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: How much do the hint bits help? Mark Kirkwood <mark.kirkwood@catalyst.net.nz>
Re: How much do the hint bits help? Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Re: How much do the hint bits help? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: How much do the hint bits help? "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>
Re: How much do the hint bits help? Mark Kirkwood <mark.kirkwood@catalyst.net.nz>
Re: How much do the hint bits help? Mark Kirkwood <mark.kirkwood@catalyst.net.nz>
Re: How much do the hint bits help? Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Re: How much do the hint bits help? Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Re: How much do the hint bits help? Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: How much do the hint bits help? Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>
Re: How much do the hint bits help? Mark Kirkwood <mark.kirkwood@catalyst.net.nz>
Re: How much do the hint bits help? Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>
Re: How much do the hint bits help? Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Re: How much do the hint bits help? Dimitri Fontaine <dimitri@2ndQuadrant.fr>
Josh Berkus  writes:
> Regarding the contention which Tom expects: the extra load on the CLOG
> would be 100% reads, no?  If it's *all* reads, why would we have any
> more contention than we have now?

Read involves sharelock which still causes contention.  Those bufmgr
contention storms we saw before were completely independent of whether
the pages were accessed for read or for write.

Another thing to keep in mind is that the current clog access code is
designed on the assumption that there's considerable locality of access
to pg_clog, ie, you usually only need to consult it for recent XIDs
because older ones have been hinted.  Turn off hint bits, that behavior
goes out the window.
		regards, tom lane

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