Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots

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Heikki Linnakangas
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Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots
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Proposal for CSN based snapshots Ants Aasma <ants@cybertec.at>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Kevin Grittner <kgrittn@ymail.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Ants Aasma <ants@cybertec.at>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Markus Wanner <markus@bluegap.ch>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Rajeev rastogi <rajeev.rastogi@huawei.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas@vmware.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas@vmware.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas@vmware.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas@vmware.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas@vmware.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas@vmware.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Greg Stark <stark@mit.edu>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas@vmware.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas@vmware.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas@vmware.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas@vmware.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Alexander Korotkov <a.korotkov@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Alexander Korotkov <a.korotkov@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Re: [HACKERS] Proposal for CSN based snapshots Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Proposal for CSN based snapshots Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Proposal for CSN based snapshots Alexander Kuzmenkov <a.kuzmenkov@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Proposal for CSN based snapshots Michael Paquier <michael.paquier@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Proposal for CSN based snapshots Alexander Kuzmenkov <a.kuzmenkov@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Proposal for CSN based snapshots Alexander Kuzmenkov <a.kuzmenkov@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Proposal for CSN based snapshots Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Proposal for CSN based snapshots Alexander Kuzmenkov <a.kuzmenkov@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Proposal for CSN based snapshots Alexander Kuzmenkov <a.kuzmenkov@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Proposal for CSN based snapshots Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: [HACKERS] Proposal for CSN based snapshots Alexander Kuzmenkov <a.kuzmenkov@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Proposal for CSN based snapshots Alexander Korotkov <a.korotkov@postgrespro.ru>
Re: [HACKERS] Proposal for CSN based snapshots Alexander Kuzmenkov <a.kuzmenkov@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Alexander Korotkov <a.korotkov@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Alexander Korotkov <a.korotkov@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Alexander Korotkov <a.korotkov@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Greg Stark <stark@mit.edu>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Kevin Grittner <kgrittn@gmail.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Alexander Korotkov <a.korotkov@postgrespro.ru>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Greg Stark <stark@mit.edu>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Greg Stark <stark@mit.edu>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Amit Langote <amitlangote09@gmail.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Greg Stark <stark@mit.edu>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas@vmware.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Craig Ringer <craig@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Craig Ringer <craig@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Craig Ringer <craig@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Ants Aasma <ants@cybertec.at>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Rajeev rastogi <rajeev.rastogi@huawei.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas@vmware.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Rajeev rastogi <rajeev.rastogi@huawei.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Ants Aasma <ants@cybertec.at>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas@vmware.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Greg Stark <stark@mit.edu>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Ants Aasma <ants@cybertec.at>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Greg Stark <stark@mit.edu>
Re: Proposal for CSN based snapshots Ants Aasma <ants@cybertec.at>
On 08/23/2016 06:18 PM, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
> On 08/22/2016 08:38 PM, Andres Freund wrote:
>> On 2016-08-22 20:32:42 +0300, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
>>> I
>>> remember seeing ProcArrayLock contention very visible earlier, but I can't
>>> hit that now. I suspect you'd still see contention on bigger hardware,
>>> though, my laptop has oly 4 cores. I'll have to find a real server for the
>>> next round of testing.
>>
>> Yea, I think that's true. I can just about see ProcArrayLock contention
>> on my more powerful laptop, to see it really bad you need bigger
>> hardware / higher concurrency.
>
> As soon as I sent my previous post, Vladimir Borodin kindly offered
> access to a 32-core server for performance testing. Thanks Vladimir!
>
> I installed Greg Smith's pgbench-tools kit on that server, and ran some
> tests. I'm seeing some benefit on "pgbench -N" workload, but only after
> modifying the test script to use "-M prepared", and using Unix domain
> sockets instead of TCP to connect. Apparently those things add enough
> overhead to mask out the little difference.
>
> Attached is a graph with the results. Full results are available at
> https://hlinnaka.iki.fi/temp/csn-4-results/. In short, the patch
> improved throughput, measured in TPS, with >= 32 or so clients. The
> biggest difference was with 44 clients, which saw about 5% improvement.
>
> So, not phenomenal, but it's something. I suspect that with more cores,
> the difference would become more clear.
>
> Like on a cue, Alexander Korotkov just offered access to a 72-core
> system :-). Thanks! I'll run the same tests on that.

And here are the results on the 72 core machine (thanks again, 
Alexander!). The test setup was the same as on the 32-core machine, 
except that I ran it with more clients since the system has more CPU 
cores. In summary, in the best case, the patch increases throughput by 
about 10%. That peak is with 64 clients. Interestingly, as the number of 
clients increases further, the gain evaporates, and the CSN version 
actually performs worse than unpatched master. I don't know why that is. 
One theory that by eliminating one bottleneck, we're now hitting another 
bottleneck which doesn't degrade as gracefully when there's contention.

Full results are available at 
https://hlinnaka.iki.fi/temp/csn-4-72core-results/.

- Heikki

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