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8Kb or 4Kb ext4 filesystem page size

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Alexandre hadjinlian guerra
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Hi

Given that postgres uses 8Kb pages, im wondering why i couldnt see any tests at all which would format ext4 partition to 8Kb pages. Im about to do some tests, but any knowledge about such lack of tests on the internet makes me wonder if im looking poorly or just lack of testing. besides, i do ask if the following link remain true given XFS and EXT4 evolution since 2015

Thanks

Re: 8Kb or 4Kb ext4 filesystem page size

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Achilleas Mantzios
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On 29/5/19 9:10 μ.μ., Alexandre hadjinlian guerra wrote:
> Hi
>
> Given that postgres uses 8Kb pages, im wondering why i couldnt see any tests at all which would format ext4 partition
to8Kb pages. Im about to do some tests, but any knowledge about such lack of 
 
> tests on the internet makes me wonder if im looking poorly or just lack of testing. besides, i do ask if the
followinglink remain true given XFS and EXT4 evolution since 2015
 
> https://blog.pgaddict.com/posts/postgresql-performance-on-ext4-and-xfs
This is just my personal opinion, and might be the case only with us, but anytime I had severe problems with any of our
postgresqlclusters this was with XFS. I know that XFS has been highly praised 
 
and recommended as a pgsql fs, just hasn't been the case with us.
Having said that, in the era of could based or vm-based postgresql installation, the question of choice of FS is
becomingless and less relevant. Just make sure to secure your data, and that you don't 
 
over tune your fs at the expense of data safety.
>
> Thanks


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Re: 8Kb or 4Kb ext4 filesystem page size

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Hello,
Great article!  "FS is becoming less and less relevant", agreed.  For the days of raw...

What about when it comes to postgres file system design?  By this I mean I've been challenged to find a good resource addressing postgres file system best practice regardless of EXT4, XFS, etc..  For example, partition order on drive, reordering, tuning and more.  Question is obviously dependent upon OS' available file systems, just thought I'd ask what others are coming across. 

Thanks

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May 30, 2019, 1:12 AM by achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com:
On 29/5/19 9:10 μ.μ., Alexandre hadjinlian guerra wrote:
Hi

Given that postgres uses 8Kb pages, im wondering why i couldnt see any tests at all which would format ext4 partition to 8Kb pages. Im about to do some tests, but any knowledge about such lack of tests on the internet makes me wonder if im looking poorly or just lack of testing. besides, i do ask if the following link remain true given XFS and EXT4 evolution since 2015
https://blog.pgaddict.com/posts/postgresql-performance-on-ext4-and-xfs
This is just my personal opinion, and might be the case only with us, but anytime I had severe problems with any of our postgresql clusters this was with XFS. I know that XFS has been highly praised and recommended as a pgsql fs, just hasn't been the case with us.
Having said that, in the era of could based or vm-based postgresql installation, the question of choice of FS is becoming less and less relevant. Just make sure to secure your data, and that you don't over tune your fs at the expense of data safety.

Thanks


--
Achilleas Mantzios
IT DEV Lead
IT DEPT
Dynacom Tankers Mgmt

8Kb or 4Kb ext4 filesystem page size

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Peter Eisentraut
Дата:
On 2019-05-29 14:10, Alexandre hadjinlian guerra wrote:
> Given that postgres uses 8Kb pages, im wondering why i couldnt see any
> tests at all which would format ext4 partition to 8Kb pages.

I suppose this is because the maximum block size for ext4 is 4 kB.

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