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Re: [HACKERS] On How To Shorten the Steep Learning Curve Towards PGHacking...

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Alvaro Herrera
Дата:
Craig Ringer wrote:

> Personally I have to agree that the learning curve is very steep. Some
> of the docs and presentations help, but there's a LOT to understand.

There is a wiki page "Developer_FAQ" which is supposed to help answer
these questions.  It is currently not very useful, because people
stopped adding to it very early and is now mostly unmaintained, but
I'm sure it could become a very useful central resource for this kind of
information.

-- 
Álvaro Herrera                https://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services



Re: [HACKERS] On How To Shorten the Steep Learning Curve Towards PG Hacking...

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Kang Yuzhe
Дата:
Thanks Alvaro for taking your time and pointing me to "Developer_FAQ". I knew this web page and there is good stuff int it.
The most important about "Developer_FAQ" which I believe is that it lists vital books for PG developers.

Comparing the real challenge I am facing in finding my way in the rabbit role(the PG source code), "Developer_FAQ" is indeed less useful.

Of course, I am a beginner and I am just beginning and one day I hope with your support I will figure out to find my space in PG development.

My question is why is that there is a lot of hands-on about PG application development(eg. connecting to PG using JAVA/JDBC) but almost nothing about PG hacking hands-on lessons. For example, I wanna add the keyword "Encrypted" in CREATE TABLE t1(a int, b int encrypted) or CREATE TABLE t1(a int, b int) encrypted. Alas, its not easy task.

Regards,
Zeray

On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 8:29 PM, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:
Craig Ringer wrote:

> Personally I have to agree that the learning curve is very steep. Some
> of the docs and presentations help, but there's a LOT to understand.

There is a wiki page "Developer_FAQ" which is supposed to help answer
these questions.  It is currently not very useful, because people
stopped adding to it very early and is now mostly unmaintained, but
I'm sure it could become a very useful central resource for this kind of
information.

--
Álvaro Herrera                https://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services

Re: [HACKERS] On How To Shorten the Steep Learning Curve Towards PGHacking...

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Amit Langote
Дата:
On 2017/04/18 15:31, Kang Yuzhe wrote:
> My question is why is that there is a lot of hands-on about PG application
> development(eg. connecting to PG using JAVA/JDBC) but almost nothing about
> PG hacking hands-on lessons. For example, I wanna add the keyword
> "Encrypted" in CREATE TABLE t1(a int, b int encrypted) or CREATE TABLE t1(a
> int, b int) encrypted. Alas, its not easy task.

Regarding this part, at one of the links shared above [1], you can find
presentations with hands-on instructions about how to implement a new SQL
functionality by modifying various parts of the source code.  See these:

Implementing a TABLESAMPLE clause (by Neil Conway)
http://www.neilconway.org/talks/hacking/ottawa/ottawa_slides.pdf

Add support for the WHEN clause to the CREATE TRIGGER statement (by Neil
Conway)
http://www.neilconway.org/talks/hacking/hack_slides.pdf

(by Gavin Sherry)
https://linux.org.au/conf/2007/att_data/Miniconfs(2f)PostgreSQL/attachments/hacking_intro.pdf

Handout: The Implementation of TABLESAMPLE
http://www.neilconway.org/talks/hacking/ottawa/ottawa_handout.pdf

Handout: Adding WHEN clause to CREATE TRIGGER
http://www.neilconway.org/talks/hacking/hack_handout.pdf

Some of the details might be dated, because they were written more than 10
years ago, but will definitely get you motivated to dive more into the
source code.

Thanks,
Amit

[1] http://www.neilconway.org/talks/hacking/




Re: [HACKERS] On How To Shorten the Steep Learning Curve Towards PG Hacking...

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Craig Ringer
Дата:
On 18 April 2017 at 01:29, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:
> Craig Ringer wrote:
>
>> Personally I have to agree that the learning curve is very steep. Some
>> of the docs and presentations help, but there's a LOT to understand.
>
> There is a wiki page "Developer_FAQ" which is supposed to help answer
> these questions.  It is currently not very useful, because people
> stopped adding to it very early and is now mostly unmaintained, but
> I'm sure it could become a very useful central resource for this kind of
> information.

I add to it when I think of things.

But it'll become an unmaintainable useless morass if random things are
just indiscriminately added. Something more structured is needed to
cover subsystems, coding rules ("don't LWLockRelease() before
ereport(ERROR, ...)"), etc.

-- Craig Ringer                   http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Training & Services