Обсуждение: moderninzing/upgrading mail list format
I belong to MANY email listservers, probably like all of us. All of them, I am on digest. The CONTENT from all of you contributors is superior, more mature, and more directly helpful than all the other lists. Ithink it has something to do with the conservative, structured mind set of us Dbase programmers. (Or at least when we discussdatabase issues ;-) However, I think that the mailing list world has moved beyond what we use, at least for those of us who receive digest mode.The google groups group all the same topics in one block, and uses intra-document html links to get to those blocks. By using the 'subjects contents' table at the top of the digest email, and the back button, it is VERY easy to investigateonly the subjects one is intersted in, without having to scan through the whole digest. There are other, better-than-pgsql-mail-programconvenience attributes of the google groups email system. I would like to open a conversation about either changing our email to be more like google groups, or a move to google groups. PS, we(Postgresql databsase) don't(doesn't) have any mention on lots of SQL/Database tutorials. Everything is mysql this,mysql that. I just offered to write examples for Postgresql to w3schools SQL section. I'd like to encourage others tolook for opportunities to do that, especially for the programming language frameworks. I am always promomting P-sql tothe coders of Symfony and referring little issues withi postgres to them. Dennis Gearon Signature Warning ---------------- EARTH has a Right To Life, otherwise we all die. Read 'Hot, Flat, and Crowded' Laugh at http://www.yert.com/film.php Dennis Gearon
On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 02:43:58PM -0700, Dennis Gearon wrote: > I would like to open a conversation about either changing our email to > be more like google groups, or a move to google groups. You know you can read pg-general in google groups if you want: http://groups.google.com/group/pgsql.general/topics Markmail is also quite good for some things: http://markmail.org/search/?q=list:org.postgresql.pgsql-general -- Sam http://samason.me.uk/
Dennis Gearon, 05.07.2010 23:43: > I belong to MANY email listservers, probably like all of us. > > All of them, I am on digest. > > The CONTENT from all of you contributors is superior, more mature, > and more directly helpful than all the other lists. I think it has > something to do with the conservative, structured mind set of us > Dbase programmers. (Or at least when we discuss database issues ;-) > > However, I think that the mailing list world has moved beyond what we > use, at least for those of us who receive digest mode. The google > groups group all the same topics in one block, and uses > intra-document html links to get to those blocks. > > By using the 'subjects contents' table at the top of the digest > email, and the back button, it is VERY easy to investigate only the > subjects one is intersted in, without having to scan through the > whole digest. There are other, better-than-pgsql-mail-program > convenience attributes of the google groups email system. > I read it through the gmane newsreader, so I get threaded display and can easily "scan" the subjects. Regards Thomas
Dennis Gearon: >> By using the 'subjects contents' table at the top of the digest >> email, and the back button, it is VERY easy to investigate only the >> subjects one is intersted in, without having to scan through the >> whole digest. There are other, better-than-pgsql-mail-program >> convenience attributes of the google groups email system. Thomas Kellerer wrote: > I read it through the gmane newsreader, so I get threaded display and > can easily "scan" the subjects. Ditto Thunderbird's news reader. Google Groups is not a very good news reader. -- Lew
On 07/05/10 2:43 PM, Dennis Gearon wrote: > I belong to MANY email listservers, probably like all of us. > > All of them, I am on digest. > I quit using digests many years ago when threaded email clients with filtering support came along. instead, I have a postgres folder in my mail client (currently Mozilla Thunderbird), and I filter any message with [GENERAL] in the subject to this folder. I can breeze through the new messages in the folder by hitting 'N' repeatedly.
On 6 July 2010 16:50, John R Pierce <pierce@hogranch.com> wrote: > On 07/05/10 2:43 PM, Dennis Gearon wrote: >> >> I belong to MANY email listservers, probably like all of us. >> >> All of them, I am on digest. >> > > I quit using digests many years ago when threaded email clients with > filtering support came along. instead, I have a postgres folder in my mail > client (currently Mozilla Thunderbird), and I filter any message with > [GENERAL] in the subject to this folder. I can breeze through the new > messages in the folder by hitting 'N' repeatedly. > I use the GMail web client which reads very well, especially since I put a filter on emails to and from *@postgresql.org to auto-archive them and label them "PostgreSQL". That means none of them appear in my inbox, but I can just click on the PostgreSQL label to list them. A problem only comes when there have been over 100 emails in a thread, which then puts further emails into another grouping, usually beginning with "Re: " Not generally a big issue though. I had a look at the Google Groups, but it's so littered with spam that I found it far less accessible. Thom
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Thom Brown <thombrown@gmail.com> wrote: > On 6 July 2010 16:50, John R Pierce <pierce@hogranch.com> wrote: >> On 07/05/10 2:43 PM, Dennis Gearon wrote: >>> >>> I belong to MANY email listservers, probably like all of us. >>> >>> All of them, I am on digest. >>> >> >> I quit using digests many years ago when threaded email clients with >> filtering support came along. instead, I have a postgres folder in my mail >> client (currently Mozilla Thunderbird), and I filter any message with >> [GENERAL] in the subject to this folder. I can breeze through the new >> messages in the folder by hitting 'N' repeatedly. >> > > I use the GMail web client which reads very well, especially since I > put a filter on emails to and from *@postgresql.org to auto-archive > them and label them "PostgreSQL". That means none of them appear in > my inbox, but I can just click on the PostgreSQL label to list them. > > A problem only comes when there have been over 100 emails in a thread, > which then puts further emails into another grouping, usually > beginning with "Re: " Not generally a big issue though. > > I had a look at the Google Groups, but it's so littered with spam that > I found it far less accessible. Big +1 on this. I've been tracking -hackers, -general, and -performance on gmail since 2004. It works really, really well for mailing lists. The privacy issue is moot (if that bugs you) for public lists and gmail is extremely powerful. merlin