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Sourceforge moving from PostgreSQL to Oracle

От
Justin Clift
Дата:
Hi everyone,

Has anyone else noticed that Sourceforge.net is moving from PostgreSQL
to Oracle?

Just noticed in their jobs page they're looking for a DBA to assist them
in the transition from PostgreSQL to Oracle.

http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=7438&group_id=1#dba

Regards and best wishes,

Justin Clift

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Re: Sourceforge moving from PostgreSQL to Oracle

От
Bruce Momjian
Дата:
> Hi everyone,
>
> Has anyone else noticed that Sourceforge.net is moving from PostgreSQL
> to Oracle?
>
> Just noticed in their jobs page they're looking for a DBA to assist them
> in the transition from PostgreSQL to Oracle.
>
> http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=7438&group_id=1#dba

I talked to them at LinuxWorld andthey want to add Oracle compatibility
to get a greater market for their "commercial" version of Source Forge.
I don't think they are dropping PostgreSQL, but I may be wrong.

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Re: Sourceforge moving from PostgreSQL to Oracle

От
jd@commandprompt.com (Joshua Drake)
Дата:
pgman@candle.pha.pa.us (Bruce Momjian) wrote in message news:<200111041547.fA4Fl6221129@candle.pha.pa.us>...
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > Has anyone else noticed that Sourceforge.net is moving from PostgreSQL
> > to Oracle?
> >
> > Just noticed in their jobs page they're looking for a DBA to assist them
> > in the transition from PostgreSQL to Oracle.

I seriously doubt that they are moving to Oracle. If nothing else,
they won't want to pay for it. However, they probably are trying to
make sourceforge Oracle compatible. That is just smart business.

Joshua Drake
Co-Author: Practical PostgreSQL
http://stage.linuxports.com/projects/postgres
http://www.postgresql.info

Re: Sourceforge moving from PostgreSQL to Oracle

От
Micah Yoder
Дата:
> I seriously doubt that they are moving to Oracle. If nothing else,
> they won't want to pay for it. However, they probably are trying to

Oh, they can afford it.  The annual report that came in my mailbox today says
they had apprximately $83 million in cash and marketable securities at the
close of Fiscal 2001 (July I think).

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Re: Sourceforge moving from PostgreSQL to Oracle

От
jd@commandprompt.com (Joshua Drake)
Дата:
yodermk@home.com (Micah Yoder) wrote in message news:<20011106084527.STAI28565.femail30.sdc1.sfba.home.com@there>...

> > I seriously doubt that they are moving to Oracle. If nothing else,

> > they won't want to pay for it. However, they probably are trying to

>

> Oh, they can afford it.  The annual report that came in my mailbox today says

> they had apprximately $83 million in cash and marketable securities at the

> close of Fiscal 2001 (July I think).


But what was their burn rate? How much are they LOOSING every month?

Re: Sourceforge moving from PostgreSQL to Oracle

От
Martín Marqués
Дата:
On Mar 06 Nov 2001 18:08, Joshua Drake wrote:
> yodermk@home.com (Micah Yoder) wrote in message
> news:<20011106084527.STAI28565.femail30.sdc1.sfba.home.com@there>...
>
> > > I seriously doubt that they are moving to Oracle. If nothing else,
> > >
> > > they won't want to pay for it. However, they probably are trying to
> >
> > Oh, they can afford it.  The annual report that came in my mailbox today
> > says
> >
> > they had apprximately $83 million in cash and marketable securities at
> > the
> >
> > close of Fiscal 2001 (July I think).
>
> But what was their burn rate? How much are they LOOSING every month?

Sorry to say you guys may by wrong. I heard that SourceForge was loosing to
much $$$ that they might not get to the end of the year.
The KDE team is conserned, as they use SourceForge for all the internet
development.

I really dought they they will move to Oracle, unless Oracle puts money in
some way to overcome the loses.

Saludos... :-)

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Re: Sourceforge moving from PostgreSQL to Oracle

От
Micah Yoder
Дата:
> Sorry to say you guys may by wrong. I heard that SourceForge was loosing to
> much $$$ that they might not get to the end of the year.

Just read much of the rest of the report tonight.

SourceForge.net is an ESSENTIAL site for them.  They're banking on the
SourceForge code to bring in revenue.  SourceForge.net is the largest
implementation of SourceForge, and it's great proof that their only real
product works.  Also since many Open Source developers use sf.net, they will
likely recommend it to their bosses.  Then there's ad revenue...

Because of all that, I'm convinced that SourceForge.net will stay around as
long as VA Linux itself does.  Dropping it would be suicide.

Yes, they lost a LOT of money last year, but much (most?) of it was in
one-time charges.  With fewer employees, they should be able to last a while.
 Their labor costs should be well under $20 million this year based on my
rough estimate.  So if they can get any kind of revenue from selling SF
enterprise solutions, they should be OK for a while.

Now, what to do about that @$#%#$^ stock...  I guess I lost a few thousand
already, so a couple hundred more (worst case) won't hurt too bad.  And if
they can indeed make SF successful in the enterprise, I can see it being a
good solid company again at some point.  BTW, the book value looks to be just
under $3 a share, so at the current price it *should* be a bargain (again, if
indeed there's any hope for their plans).

Micah

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