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PDF 7.4?

От
"Joshua D. Drake"
Дата:
Hey,

   Any reason why we don't have PDF's of the 7.4 manual set?

Sincerely,

Joshua D. Drake

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Re: PDF 7.4?

От
Bruce Momjian
Дата:
Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> Hey,
>
>    Any reason why we don't have PDF's of the 7.4 manual set?

Yes, our SGML builds for PDF fail and we don't know why.

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Re: PDF 7.4?

От
"Marc G. Fournier"
Дата:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Bruce Momjian wrote:

> Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> > Hey,
> >
> >    Any reason why we don't have PDF's of the 7.4 manual set?
>
> Yes, our SGML builds for PDF fail and we don't know why.

Is there something missing on the VM that needs to be installed?  First
I've heard of this, is there something that I can run to generate the
error, and test?

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Re: PDF 7.4?

От
Bruce Momjian
Дата:
Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Bruce Momjian wrote:
>
> > Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> > > Hey,
> > >
> > >    Any reason why we don't have PDF's of the 7.4 manual set?
> >
> > Yes, our SGML builds for PDF fail and we don't know why.
>
> Is there something missing on the VM that needs to be installed?  First
> I've heard of this, is there something that I can run to generate the
> error, and test?

No, the openjade toolset itself dump core so it is an openjade
application problem.

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Re: PDF 7.4?

От
"Marc G. Fournier"
Дата:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Bruce Momjian wrote:

> Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> > On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> >
> > > Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> > > > Hey,
> > > >
> > > >    Any reason why we don't have PDF's of the 7.4 manual set?
> > >
> > > Yes, our SGML builds for PDF fail and we don't know why.
> >
> > Is there something missing on the VM that needs to be installed?  First
> > I've heard of this, is there something that I can run to generate the
> > error, and test?
>
> No, the openjade toolset itself dump core so it is an openjade
> application problem.

'k, a *very* quick scan of google, openjade uses the docbook for doing the
PDF stuff?  Is there a problem with the version that is in use?  that VM
has the following docbook packages installed:

t1# ls -ld docbook-*
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Oct 15 14:50 docbook-1.2_1
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Oct 15 14:50 docbook-241_2
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Oct 15 14:50 docbook-3.0_2
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Oct 15 14:50 docbook-3.1_2
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Oct 15 14:50 docbook-4.0_2
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Oct 15 14:50 docbook-4.1_2

maybe openjade is using the wrong version?

Since, as far as I know, its *supposed* to work, if I can get a command to
run to test with, I can hit the port maintainer to see if maybe I have
something installed wrong?

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Re: PDF 7.4?

От
Bruce Momjian
Дата:
Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> > No, the openjade toolset itself dump core so it is an openjade
> > application problem.
>
> 'k, a *very* quick scan of google, openjade uses the docbook for doing the
> PDF stuff?  Is there a problem with the version that is in use?  that VM
> has the following docbook packages installed:
>
> t1# ls -ld docbook-*
> drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Oct 15 14:50 docbook-1.2_1
> drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Oct 15 14:50 docbook-241_2
> drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Oct 15 14:50 docbook-3.0_2
> drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Oct 15 14:50 docbook-3.1_2
> drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Oct 15 14:50 docbook-4.0_2
> drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Oct 15 14:50 docbook-4.1_2
>
> maybe openjade is using the wrong version?
>
> Since, as far as I know, its *supposed* to work, if I can get a command to
> run to test with, I can hit the port maintainer to see if maybe I have
> something installed wrong?

I have a fresh install of docbook 4.2 on my machine and it loops, and
for Peter is core dumps, and no one else has gotten it working either.

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Re: PDF 7.4?

От
"Joshua D. Drake"
Дата:
>Yes, our SGML builds for PDF fail and we don't know why.
>
>
>
Hmm o.k. I will take a look at it. Any reason why we haven't moved
to Docbook XML?

J






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Re: PDF 7.4?

От
Bruce Momjian
Дата:
Joshua D. Drake wrote:
>
> >Yes, our SGML builds for PDF fail and we don't know why.
> >
> >
> >
> Hmm o.k. I will take a look at it. Any reason why we haven't moved
> to Docbook XML?

Peter know, I don't.

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Re: PDF 7.4?

От
Bruce Momjian
Дата:
Joshua D. Drake wrote:
>
> >Yes, our SGML builds for PDF fail and we don't know why.
> >
> >
> >
> Hmm o.k. I will take a look at it. Any reason why we haven't moved
> to Docbook XML?

Peter knows, I don't.

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Re: PDF 7.4?

От
"Joshua D. Drake"
Дата:
>I have a fresh install of docbook 4.2 on my machine and it loops, and
>for Peter is core dumps, and no one else has gotten it working either.
>
>
>

It loops for me as well... on the section about the date data types.

J







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Re: PDF 7.4?

От
"Marc G. Fournier"
Дата:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Joshua D. Drake wrote:

>
> >I have a fresh install of docbook 4.2 on my machine and it loops, and
> >for Peter is core dumps, and no one else has gotten it working either.
> >
> >
> >
>
> It loops for me as well... on the section about the date data types.

so the problem is in the sgml itself, and not the tools... ?

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Re: PDF 7.4?

От
"Joshua D. Drake"
Дата:
>so the problem is in the sgml itself, and not the tools... ?
>
>
>

Well, I have yet to get that far but I am running SuSe 8.2 and Fedora. I
can duplicate
the problem on both.

I would suspect that something in the SGML is causing it to loop on
itself. It may be
a bug with openjade that is rearing its head because of something we are
doing in
the docs.

I am going to dig a little more and see if I can find the exact problem.

Sincerely,

Joshua Drake



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>


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Re: PDF 7.4?

От
"Marc G. Fournier"
Дата:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Joshua D. Drake wrote:

>
> >so the problem is in the sgml itself, and not the tools... ?
> >
> >
> >
>
> Well, I have yet to get that far but I am running SuSe 8.2 and Fedora. I
> can duplicate
> the problem on both.
>
> I would suspect that something in the SGML is causing it to loop on
> itself. It may be
> a bug with openjade that is rearing its head because of something we are
> doing in
> the docs.
>
> I am going to dig a little more and see if I can find the exact problem.

'k, on the dev server, I get a whack of errors before it exits:

LaTeX Warning: Reference `26529' on page xxix undefined on input line 33613.


LaTeX Warning: Reference `26550' on page xxix undefined on input line 33643.


LaTeX Warning: Reference `26613' on page xxix undefined on input line 33673.


LaTeX Warning: Reference `26821' on page xxix undefined on input line 33703.

! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [save size=5000].
\setnormal ...ing \let \fPosture \pageFontPosture
                                                  \let \fProportionateWidth ...
l.33711 {start}}
                \Link%
!  ==> Fatal error occurred, the output PDF file is not finished!
Transcript written on postgres.log.
gmake: *** [postgres.pdf] Error 1
gmake: *** Deleting file `postgres.pdf'


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Re: PDF 7.4?

От
Bruce Momjian
Дата:
Joshua D. Drake wrote:
>
> >so the problem is in the sgml itself, and not the tools... ?
> >
> >
> >
>
> Well, I have yet to get that far but I am running SuSe 8.2 and Fedora. I
> can duplicate
> the problem on both.
>
> I would suspect that something in the SGML is causing it to loop on
> itself. It may be
> a bug with openjade that is rearing its head because of something we are
> doing in
> the docs.
>
> I am going to dig a little more and see if I can find the exact problem.

I have it running on a dual Xeon 2.4G machine and the build is still
running after 2.5 hours.  The strange thing is that the postgres.tex-pdf
file is growing by about 1mb per hour, and the contents show that it is
putting new information into the file that is unique (doesn't appear
earlier in the file), so it is doing something, just very slowly.

The most recent text I have in the file is:

    Constructs an argument that consists of an array of bytes

which is from jdbc.sgml.  I wonder if there is some non-linear behavior
for very large builds.  I just phoned Tom and he suggested that idea,
and I was wondering that myself.

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Re: PDF 7.4?

От
"Joshua D. Drake"
Дата:
>! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [save size=5000].
>\setnormal ...ing \let \fPosture \pageFontPosture
>
>
The above error I have seen before... when we were writing Practical
PostgreSQL. It has been a long
time but I just found this on google:

http://www.tug.org/pipermail/texhax/2003-September/000928.html

It may or may not fix the problem you are having.

J




>                                                  \let \fProportionateWidth ...
>l.33711 {start}}
>                \Link%
>!  ==> Fatal error occurred, the output PDF file is not finished!
>Transcript written on postgres.log.
>gmake: *** [postgres.pdf] Error 1
>gmake: *** Deleting file `postgres.pdf'
>
>
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>
>


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Re: PDF 7.4?

От
"Joshua D. Drake"
Дата:
>The most recent text I have in the file is:
>
>    Constructs an argument that consists of an array of bytes
>
>which is from jdbc.sgml.  I wonder if there is some non-linear behavior
>for very large builds.  I just phoned Tom and he suggested that idea,
>and I was wondering that myself.
>
>
>

My file got to 150 megs before I killed it... I was watching and I got a
lot of duplication.
If I run in debug mode I get a lot of missing files:

[root@srv1 sgml]# openjade  -g -D . -c
/usr/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl-stylesheets/catalog -d stylesheet.dsl -i
output-html -t tex postgres.sgml
openjade:problems.sgml:237:37:W: cannot generate system identifier for
general entity "version"
openjade:problems.sgml:237:37: open elements: BOOK PREFACE[1] SECT1[1]
SECT2[1] PARA[1] ITEMIZEDLIST[1] LISTITEM[1] PARA[1]
(#PCDATA[1])
openjade:problems.sgml:237:37:E: general entity "version" not defined
and no default entity
openjade:problems.sgml:237:37: open elements: BOOK PREFACE[1] SECT1[1]
SECT2[1] PARA[1] ITEMIZEDLIST[1] LISTITEM[1] PARA[1]
(#PCDATA[1])
openjade:problems.sgml:237:44:E: reference to entity "version" for which
no system identifier could be generated
openjade:problems.sgml:237:36: entity was defined here
openjade:problems.sgml:237:44: open elements: BOOK PREFACE[1] SECT1[1]
SECT2[1] PARA[1] ITEMIZEDLIST[1] LISTITEM[1] PARA[1]
(#PCDATA[1])
openjade:start.sgml:320:24:E: reference to entity "version" for which no
system identifier could be generated
openjade:problems.sgml:237:36: entity was defined here
openjade:start.sgml:320:24: open elements: BOOK PART[1] CHAPTER[1]
SECT1[2] PARA[1] SCREEN[1] (#PCDATA[1])
openjade:start.sgml:360:20:E: reference to entity "version" for which no
system identifier could be generated
openjade:problems.sgml:237:36: entity was defined here
openjade:start.sgml:360:20: open elements: BOOK PART[1] CHAPTER[1]
SECT1[2] PARA[1] SCREEN[1] (#PCDATA[1])
openjade:installation.sgml:334:42:E: reference to entity "version" for
which no system identifier could be generated
openjade:problems.sgml:237:36: entity was defined here
openjade:installation.sgml:334:42: open elements: BOOK PART[1]
CHAPTER[1] SECT1[1] PARA[1] (#PCDATA[1])
openjade:installation.sgml:336:53:E: reference to entity "version" for
which no system identifier could be generated
openjade:problems.sgml:237:36: entity was defined here
openjade:installation.sgml:336:53: open elements: BOOK PART[1]
CHAPTER[1] SECT1[1] PARA[1] (#PCDATA[1])
openjade:installation.sgml:336:74:E: reference to entity "version" for
which no system identifier could be generated
openjade:problems.sgml:237:36: entity was defined here
openjade:installation.sgml:336:74: open elements: BOOK PART[1]
CHAPTER[1] SECT1[1] PARA[1] (#PCDATA[1])
openjade:installation.sgml:339:37:E: reference to entity "version" for
which no system identifier could be generated
openjade:problems.sgml:237:36: entity was defined here
openjade:installation.sgml:339:37: open elements: BOOK PART[1]
CHAPTER[1] SECT1[1] PARA[1] SCREEN[1] USERINPUT[1] (#PCDATA[1])
openjade:installation.sgml:340:37:E: reference to entity "version" for
which no system identifier could be generated
openjade:problems.sgml:237:36: entity was defined here
openjade:installation.sgml:340:37: open elements: BOOK PART[1]
CHAPTER[1] SECT1[1] PARA[1] SCREEN[1] USERINPUT[1] (#PCDATA[1])
openjade:installation.sgml:343:32:E: reference to entity "version" for
which no system identifier could be generated
openjade:problems.sgml:237:36: entity was defined here
openjade:installation.sgml:343:32: open elements: BOOK PART[1]
CHAPTER[1] SECT1[1] PARA[1] FILENAME[1] (#PCDATA[1])
openjade:installation.sgml:362:11:W: cannot generate system identifier
for general entity "majorversion"
openjade:installation.sgml:362:11: open elements: BOOK PART[1]
CHAPTER[1] SECT1[1] PARA[1] QUOTE[1]
openjade:installation.sgml:362:11:E: general entity "majorversion" not
defined and no default entity
openjade:installation.sgml:362:11: open elements: BOOK PART[1]
CHAPTER[1] SECT1[1] PARA[1] QUOTE[1]
openjade:installation.sgml:362:23:E: reference to entity "majorversion"
for which no system identifier could be generated
openjade:installation.sgml:362:10: entity was defined here
openjade:installation.sgml:362:23: open elements: BOOK PART[1]
CHAPTER[1] SECT1[1] PARA[1] QUOTE[1]
openjade:installation.sgml:409:64:E: reference to entity "version" for
which no system identifier could be generated
openjade:problems.sgml:237:36: entity was defined here
openjade:installation.sgml:409:64: open elements: BOOK PART[1]
CHAPTER[1] SECT1[1] PROCEDURE[1] STEP[1] PARA[1]
(#PCDATA[1])openjade:installation.sgml:460:63:E: reference to entity
"version" for which no system identifier could be generated
openjade:problems.sgml:237:36: entity was defined here
openjade:installation.sgml:460:63: open elements: BOOK PART[1]
CHAPTER[1] SECT1[1] PARA[1] (#PCDATA[1])
openjade:installation.sgml:1728:64:E: reference to entity "majorversion"
for which no system identifier could be generated
openjade:installation.sgml:362:10: entity was defined here
openjade:installation.sgml:1728:64: open elements: BOOK PART[1]
CHAPTER[1] SECT1[1] FORMALPARA[1] PARA[1] (#PCDATA[1])
openjade:backup.sgml:442:24:E: reference to entity "version" for which
no system identifier could be generated
openjade:problems.sgml:237:36: entity was defined here
openjade:backup.sgml:442:24: open elements: BOOK PART[1] CHAPTER[1]
SECT1[1] PARA[1] PROGRAMLISTING[1] (#PCDATA[1])
openjade:jdbc.sgml:88:53:E: reference to entity "majorversion" for which
no system identifier could be generated
openjade:installation.sgml:362:10: entity was defined here
openjade:jdbc.sgml:88:53: open elements: BOOK PART[1] CHAPTER[1]
SECT1[1] SECT2[1] PARA[1] FILENAME[1] (#PCDATA[1])
openjade:jdbc.sgml:89:29:E: reference to entity "majorversion" for which
no system identifier could be generated
openjade:installation.sgml:362:10: entity was defined here
openjade:jdbc.sgml:89:29: open elements: BOOK PART[1] CHAPTER[1]
SECT1[1] SECT2[1] PARA[1] FILENAME[1] (#PCDATA[1])
openjade:jdbc.sgml:90:29:E: reference to entity "majorversion" for which
no system identifier could be generated
openjade:installation.sgml:362:10: entity was defined here
openjade:jdbc.sgml:90:29: open elements: BOOK PART[1] CHAPTER[1]
SECT1[1] SECT2[1] PARA[1] FILENAME[1] (#PCDATA[1])
openjade:xoper.sgml:99:34:E: reference to entity "version" for which no
system identifier could be generated
openjade:problems.sgml:237:36: entity was defined here
openjade:xoper.sgml:99:34: open elements: BOOK PART[1] CHAPTER[1]
SECT1[1] PARA[1] (#PCDATA[1])
openjade:ref/psql-ref.sgml:523:24:E: reference to entity "version" for
which no system identifier could be generated
openjade:problems.sgml:237:36: entity was defined here
openjade:ref/psql-ref.sgml:523:24: open elements: BOOK PART[1]
REFERENCE[1] REFENTRY[1] REFSECT1[1] REFSECT2[2] PARA[1]
PROGRAMLISTING[1] (#PCDATA[1])
openjade:errcodes.sgml:31:48:E: reference to entity "version" for which
no system identifier could be generated
openjade:problems.sgml:237:36: entity was defined here
openjade:errcodes.sgml:31:48: open elements: BOOK PART[1] APPENDIX[1]
PARA[1] (#PCDATA[1])
openjade:keywords.sgml:14:10:E: reference to entity "version" for which
no system identifier could be generated
openjade:problems.sgml:237:36: entity was defined here
openjade:keywords.sgml:14:10: open elements: BOOK PART[1] APPENDIX[1]
PARA[1] (#PCDATA[1])
openjade:features.sgml:97:6:E: cannot find "features-supported.sgml";
tried "features-supported.sgml", "./features-supported.sgml",
"/usr/share/sgml/features-supported.sgml"
openjade:features.sgml:97:6: open elements: BOOK PART[1] APPENDIX[1]
SECT1[1] PARA[1] INFORMALTABLE[1] TGROUP[1] (THEAD[1])
openjade:features.sgml:99:13:E: end tag for "TGROUP" which is not finished
openjade:features.sgml:99:13: open elements: BOOK PART[1] APPENDIX[1]
SECT1[1] PARA[1] INFORMALTABLE[1] TGROUP[1]
(THEAD[1])openjade:features.sgml:124:6:E: cannot find
"features-unsupported.sgml"; tried "features-unsupported.sgml",
"./features-unsupported.sgml", "/usr/share/sgml/features-unsupported.sgml"
openjade:features.sgml:124:6: open elements: BOOK PART[1] APPENDIX[1]
SECT1[1] PARA[1] INFORMALTABLE[1] TGROUP[1]
(THEAD[1])openjade:features.sgml:126:13:E: end tag for "TGROUP" which is
not finished
openjade:features.sgml:126:13: open elements: BOOK PART[1] APPENDIX[1]
SECT1[1] PARA[1] INFORMALTABLE[1] TGROUP[1] (THEAD[1])
openjade:postgres.sgml:257:1:E: cannot find "bookindex.sgml"; tried
"bookindex.sgml", "./bookindex.sgml", "/usr/share/sgml/bookindex.sgml"
openjade:postgres.sgml:257:1: open elements: BOOK (BIBLIOGRAPHY[1])





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Re: PDF 7.4?

От
Bruce Momjian
Дата:
Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> LaTeX Warning: Reference `26821' on page xxix undefined on input line 33703.
>
> ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [save size=5000].
> \setnormal ...ing \let \fPosture \pageFontPosture

The error above looks like a problem where you didn't modify your latex
rules in the special way pdflatex requests.

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Re: PDF 7.4?

От
Bruce Momjian
Дата:
Joshua D. Drake wrote:
>
> >The most recent text I have in the file is:
> >
> >    Constructs an argument that consists of an array of bytes
> >
> >which is from jdbc.sgml.  I wonder if there is some non-linear behavior
> >for very large builds.  I just phoned Tom and he suggested that idea,
> >and I was wondering that myself.
> >
> >
> >
>
> My file got to 150 megs before I killed it... I was watching and I got a
> lot of duplication.
> If I run in debug mode I get a lot of missing files:

My file is only 7mb, and there are no messages at all:

    #$ gmake postgres.pdf
    openjade -V draft-mode -D . -c
    /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook-dsssl/catalog -d stylesheet.dsl -t tex -V
    tex-backend -i output-print -V texpdf-output -o postgres.tex-pdf postgres.sgml

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Re: PDF 7.4?

От
"Marc G. Fournier"
Дата:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Joshua D. Drake wrote:

>
> >! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [save size=5000].
> >\setnormal ...ing \let \fPosture \pageFontPosture
> >
> >
> The above error I have seen before... when we were writing Practical
> PostgreSQL. It has been a long
> time but I just found this on google:
>
> http://www.tug.org/pipermail/texhax/2003-September/000928.html
>
> It may or may not fix the problem you are having.

So the other errors are all benign?

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Re: PDF 7.4?

От
"Joshua D. Drake"
Дата:
>My file is only 7mb, and there are no messages at all:
>
>
Change your openjade line to:

openjade -V draft-mode -g -D . -c
    /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook-dsssl/catalog -d stylesheet.dsl -t tex -V
    tex-backend -i output-print -V texpdf-output -o postgres.tex-pdf postgres.sgml



You should see errors at that point.

>
>    #$ gmake postgres.pdf
>    openjade -V draft-mode -D . -c
>    /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook-dsssl/catalog -d stylesheet.dsl -t tex -V
>    tex-backend -i output-print -V texpdf-output -o postgres.tex-pdf postgres.sgml
>
>
>


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Re: PDF 7.4?

От
"Marc G. Fournier"
Дата:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Bruce Momjian wrote:

> Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> > LaTeX Warning: Reference `26821' on page xxix undefined on input line 33703.
> >
> > ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [save size=5000].
> > \setnormal ...ing \let \fPosture \pageFontPosture
>
> The error above looks like a problem where you didn't modify your latex
> rules in the special way pdflatex requests.

I realize ... was more concerned with the slew of errors scrolling up the
screen previous to the error :)

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Re: PDF 7.4?

От
Bruce Momjian
Дата:
Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Bruce Momjian wrote:
>
> > Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> > > LaTeX Warning: Reference `26821' on page xxix undefined on input line 33703.
> > >
> > > ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [save size=5000].
> > > \setnormal ...ing \let \fPosture \pageFontPosture
> >
> > The error above looks like a problem where you didn't modify your latex
> > rules in the special way pdflatex requests.
>
> I realize ... was more concerned with the slew of errors scrolling up the
> screen previous to the error :)

True, though sometimes you get meaningless errors and then the proper
error appears.

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Re: PDF 7.4?

От
"Marc G. Fournier"
Дата:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Bruce Momjian wrote:

> Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> > On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> >
> > > Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> > > > LaTeX Warning: Reference `26821' on page xxix undefined on input line 33703.
> > > >
> > > > ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [save size=5000].
> > > > \setnormal ...ing \let \fPosture \pageFontPosture
> > >
> > > The error above looks like a problem where you didn't modify your latex
> > > rules in the special way pdflatex requests.
> >
> > I realize ... was more concerned with the slew of errors scrolling up the
> > screen previous to the error :)
>
> True, though sometimes you get meaningless errors and then the proper
> error appears.

since you don't seem to generate any of the errors, even after a few
hours, and svr1.postgresql.org does within a few minutes, how abot trying
to do a 'gmake postgres.pdf' there and see if the errors make sense to
you?

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Re: PDF 7.4?

От
Bruce Momjian
Дата:
Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Bruce Momjian wrote:
>
> > Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> > > On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > >
> > > > Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> > > > > LaTeX Warning: Reference `26821' on page xxix undefined on input line 33703.
> > > > >
> > > > > ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [save size=5000].
> > > > > \setnormal ...ing \let \fPosture \pageFontPosture
> > > >
> > > > The error above looks like a problem where you didn't modify your latex
> > > > rules in the special way pdflatex requests.
> > >
> > > I realize ... was more concerned with the slew of errors scrolling up the
> > > screen previous to the error :)
> >
> > True, though sometimes you get meaningless errors and then the proper
> > error appears.
>
> since you don't seem to generate any of the errors, even after a few
> hours, and svr1.postgresql.org does within a few minutes, how abot trying
> to do a 'gmake postgres.pdf' there and see if the errors make sense to
> you?

OK, testing now.

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Re: PDF 7.4?

От
Bruce Momjian
Дата:
Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> > > I realize ... was more concerned with the slew of errors scrolling up the
> > > screen previous to the error :)
> >
> > True, though sometimes you get meaningless errors and then the proper
> > error appears.
>
> since you don't seem to generate any of the errors, even after a few
> hours, and svr1.postgresql.org does within a few minutes, how abot trying
> to do a 'gmake postgres.pdf' there and see if the errors make sense to
> you?

This is an error I got:

    openjade:postgres.sgml:5:55:W: cannot generate system identifier
    for public text "-//OASIS//DTD DocBook V4.2//EN"

You don't have Docbook 4.2 installed or it isn't being found.  That is
attempting to build HEAD, not 7.4.X, which uses docbook 3.2, I think.
What I don't understand is why the official developer build can build
HTML.

I just checked out REL 7.4.X and got:

    $ gmake postgres.pdf
    LC_ALL=C /usr/bin/perl
    /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/bin/collateindex.pl -f -g -o
    bookindex.sgml -N
    { \
      echo "<!entity version \"7.4.1\">"; \
      echo "<!entity majorversion \"`expr 7.4.1 :
    '\([0-9][0-9]*\.[0-9][0-9]*\)'`\">"; \
    } >version.sgml
    /usr/bin/perl ./mk_feature_tables.pl YES
    ../../../src/backend/catalog/sql_feature_packages.txt
    ../../../src/backend/catalog/sql_features.txt > features-supported.sgml
    /usr/bin/perl ./mk_feature_tables.pl NO
    ../../../src/backend/catalog/sql_feature_packages.txt
    ../../../src/backend/catalog/sql_features.txt >
    features-unsupported.sgml
    openjade  -D . -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -d
    stylesheet.dsl -t tex -V tex-backend -i output-print -V texpdf-output -o
    postgres.tex-pdf postgres.sgml

and I see the errors you see.  Those look like missing index entries
generated by LaTeX.  Usually you have to run latex 3 times to get all
the index entries fixed, but rerunning the gmake doesn't seem to help.

Basically, I think if you fixed the final error, the build would
complete and you could re-run the gmake a few times more to remove the
warnings.

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Re: PDF 7.4?

От
"Marc G. Fournier"
Дата:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Bruce Momjian wrote:

>     openjade:postgres.sgml:5:55:W: cannot generate system identifier
>     for public text "-//OASIS//DTD DocBook V4.2//EN"
>
> You don't have Docbook 4.2 installed or it isn't being found.  That is
> attempting to build HEAD, not 7.4.X, which uses docbook 3.2, I think.
> What I don't understand is why the official developer build can build
> HTML.

Odd, there isn't even a v4.2 port available ... v4.1 is the latest ... do
you know, off hand, where the install instructions are found, as I've
never done docbook outside of ports ...

> and I see the errors you see.  Those look like missing index entries
> generated by LaTeX.  Usually you have to run latex 3 times to get all
> the index entries fixed, but rerunning the gmake doesn't seem to help.

'k, and the stupid question here, but ... should you *have* to run it 3
times, or do we have something wrong in the sgml?  Note that I know zip
about sgml and TeX, so this just may be the norm, but sounds like a
logical question to ask :)

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Re: PDF 7.4?

От
Bruce Momjian
Дата:
Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Bruce Momjian wrote:
>
> >     openjade:postgres.sgml:5:55:W: cannot generate system identifier
> >     for public text "-//OASIS//DTD DocBook V4.2//EN"
> >
> > You don't have Docbook 4.2 installed or it isn't being found.  That is
> > attempting to build HEAD, not 7.4.X, which uses docbook 3.2, I think.
> > What I don't understand is why the official developer build can build
> > HTML.
>
> Odd, there isn't even a v4.2 port available ... v4.1 is the latest ... do
> you know, off hand, where the install instructions are found, as I've
> never done docbook outside of ports ...

I used our official SGML tools build docs --- seemed to work.

> > and I see the errors you see.  Those look like missing index entries
> > generated by LaTeX.  Usually you have to run latex 3 times to get all
> > the index entries fixed, but rerunning the gmake doesn't seem to help.
>
> 'k, and the stupid question here, but ... should you *have* to run it 3
> times, or do we have something wrong in the sgml?  Note that I know zip
> about sgml and TeX, so this just may be the norm, but sounds like a
> logical question to ask :)

You have too.  See sgml/Makefile:

    %.pdf: %.tex-pdf
            @rm -f $*.aux $*.log $*.out
            pdfjadetex $<
            pdfjadetex $<
            pdfjadetex $<

Three builds are required because the index has to be built first, then
once you know the number of pages, you can then regenerate the index
with the new index size offset, then the last run I think is for the
table-of-contents.

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Re: PDF 7.4?

От
"Joshua D. Drake"
Дата:
Here is where you can grab the latest docbook:

http://www.docbook.org/sgml/index.html



>'k, and the stupid question here, but ... should you *have* to run it 3
>times, or do we have something wrong in the sgml?  Note that I know zip
>about sgml and TeX, so this just may be the norm, but sounds like a
>logical question to ask :)
>
>
>
I know to generate the index correctly (at least it use to be this way)
you have
to run it at least twice because the first time generates the entries
and the you use
collateindex.pl to actually create it.




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Re: PDF 7.4?

От
Bruce Momjian
Дата:
Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> Here is where you can grab the latest docbook:
>
> http://www.docbook.org/sgml/index.html
>
>
>
> >'k, and the stupid question here, but ... should you *have* to run it 3
> >times, or do we have something wrong in the sgml?  Note that I know zip
> >about sgml and TeX, so this just may be the norm, but sounds like a
> >logical question to ask :)
> >
> >
> >
> I know to generate the index correctly (at least it use to be this way)
> you have
> to run it at least twice because the first time generates the entries
> and the you use
> collateindex.pl to actually create it.

Right.  I think Marc's build is getting much father than mine, and in
fact I think I have the pdflatex changes so I will not fail the build.
I just wonder what is different about his install.  Is it the binary
versions?  Marc, what is your openjade version?

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Re: PDF 7.4?

От
"Joshua D. Drake"
Дата:
>
>
>Right.  I think Marc's build is getting much father than mine, and in
>fact I think I have the pdflatex changes so I will not fail the build.
>I just wonder what is different about his install.  Is it the binary
>versions?  Marc, what is your openjade version?
>
>
>
Well I am running 1.3.2 and I am unable to build it. Still working
through it though..
I noticed that I do get errors even when I build the html version though.

J






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Re: PDF 7.4?

От
"Marc G. Fournier"
Дата:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Bruce Momjian wrote:

> Right.  I think Marc's build is getting much father than mine, and in
> fact I think I have the pdflatex changes so I will not fail the build.
> I just wonder what is different about his install.  Is it the binary
> versions?  Marc, what is your openjade version?

svr1# openjade --version
openjade:I: "openjade" version "1.3.2"
openjade:I: "OpenSP" version "1.5"
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Re: PDF 7.4?

От
Bruce Momjian
Дата:
Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Bruce Momjian wrote:
>
> > Right.  I think Marc's build is getting much father than mine, and in
> > fact I think I have the pdflatex changes so I will not fail the build.
> > I just wonder what is different about his install.  Is it the binary
> > versions?  Marc, what is your openjade version?
>
> svr1# openjade --version
> openjade:I: "openjade" version "1.3.2"
> openjade:I: "OpenSP" version "1.5"

Those are the exact versions I have.

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PDF 7.4 (got it)

От
"Joshua D. Drake"
Дата:
Hello,

 The below will produce a PDF. I am still working on things like the
index but at least it generates now.

jw -f docbook -b tex postgres.sgml
jadetex postgres.tex
dvipdf postgres.dvi

Sincerley,

Joshua D. Drake





Bruce Momjian wrote:

>Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>
>
>>On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Bruce Momjian wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Right.  I think Marc's build is getting much father than mine, and in
>>>fact I think I have the pdflatex changes so I will not fail the build.
>>>I just wonder what is different about his install.  Is it the binary
>>>versions?  Marc, what is your openjade version?
>>>
>>>
>>svr1# openjade --version
>>openjade:I: "openjade" version "1.3.2"
>>openjade:I: "OpenSP" version "1.5"
>>
>>
>
>Those are the exact versions I have.
>
>
>


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Re: PDF 7.4 (got it)

От
Bruce Momjian
Дата:
Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> Hello,
>
>  The below will produce a PDF. I am still working on things like the
> index but at least it generates now.
>
> jw -f docbook -b tex postgres.sgml

Great.  What is jw?

> jadetex postgres.tex
> dvipdf postgres.dvi

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Re: PDF 7.4 (got it)

От
"Joshua D. Drake"
Дата:
Bruce Momjian wrote:

>Joshua D. Drake wrote:
>
>
>>Hello,
>>
>> The below will produce a PDF. I am still working on things like the
>>index but at least it generates now.
>>
>>jw -f docbook -b tex postgres.sgml
>>
>>
>
>Great.  What is jw?
>
>

jadewrapper . It is part of docbook utils.

>
>
>>jadetex postgres.tex
>>dvipdf postgres.dvi
>>
>>
>
>
>


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Re: PDF 7.4?

От
Alex Satrapa
Дата:
Bruce Momjian wrote:
>>svr1# openjade --version
>>openjade:I: "openjade" version "1.3.2"
>>openjade:I: "OpenSP" version "1.5"
>
>
> Those are the exact versions I have.

Pardon my joining the discussion so late - are you trying to build this
from CVS or the postgresql-docs-7.4.tar.bz2 file?

Just in case anyone else out there wants to join the frustration?

Thanks
Alex


Re: PDF 7.4?

От
"Joshua D. Drake"
Дата:
>
> Pardon my joining the discussion so late - are you trying to build
> this from CVS or the postgresql-docs-7.4.tar.bz2 file?
>
I am using the stock download.


> Just in case anyone else out there wants to join the frustration?
>
> Thanks
> Alex
>
>
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> your
>      joining column's datatypes do not match



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Re: PDF 7.4 (got it)

От
Bruce Momjian
Дата:
Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> Bruce Momjian wrote:
>
> >Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Hello,
> >>
> >> The below will produce a PDF. I am still working on things like the
> >>index but at least it generates now.
> >>
> >>jw -f docbook -b tex postgres.sgml
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Great.  What is jw?
> >
> >
>
> jadewrapper . It is part of docbook utils.

I don't have those here.

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Re: PDF 7.4 (got it)

От
"Marc G. Fournier"
Дата:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Bruce Momjian wrote:

> Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> > Bruce Momjian wrote:
> >
> > >Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>Hello,
> > >>
> > >> The below will produce a PDF. I am still working on things like the
> > >>index but at least it generates now.
> > >>
> > >>jw -f docbook -b tex postgres.sgml
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >Great.  What is jw?
> > >
> > >
> >
> > jadewrapper . It is part of docbook utils.
>
> I don't have those here.

Me neither, and I checked through ports and can't seem to find it there
either ... Joshua, do you have a URL for it?

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Re: PDF 7.4 (got it)

От
"Joshua D. Drake"
Дата:
>>jadewrapper . It is part of docbook utils.
>>
>>
>
>I don't have those here.
>
>
>

Would this be a good time to start the BSD vs Linux war?

;)





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Re: PDF 7.4 (got it)

От
"Joshua D. Drake"
Дата:

http://freshmeat.net/projects/docbook-utils/

Marc G. Fournier wrote:

>On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Bruce Momjian wrote:
>
>
>
>>Joshua D. Drake wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Bruce Momjian wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Joshua D. Drake wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>>The below will produce a PDF. I am still working on things like the
>>>>>index but at least it generates now.
>>>>>
>>>>>jw -f docbook -b tex postgres.sgml
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>Great.  What is jw?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>jadewrapper . It is part of docbook utils.
>>>
>>>
>>I don't have those here.
>>
>>
>
>Me neither, and I checked through ports and can't seem to find it there
>either ... Joshua, do you have a URL for it?
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Re: PDF 7.4?

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"Peter Eisentraut"
Дата:
Joshua D. Drake writes:
> Hmm o.k. I will take a look at it. Any reason why we haven't moved to
> Docbook XML?

Search the fine pgsql-docs archives.  And take the whole thread there
while you're at it.




Re: PDF 7.4?

От
"Joshua D. Drake"
Дата:
Hello,

  I reviewed the latest Docbook thread... the last email that i see is:

On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 10:32:10AM +0100, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> XML disadvantage:
> 
> - no arbitrary parameter entities
I unsure if I understand, can you show some example of this problem?
I think there is  a lot of XML Docbook docs in a  lot of projects and Iwill wonder if in the PostgreSQL docs is something special what disableuse XML instead SGML.

> Follow-up to pgsql-docs ( at ) postgresql ( dot ) org please.
Hmm.. I must subscribe first :-)
   Karel


However you don't seem to have responded? So I will ask the question as well... Can you show
and example of the problem? Perhaps if I understand the root of the problem I can help find
a solution around it.

Sincerley,

Joshua D. Drake




Peter Eisentraut wrote:
Joshua D. Drake writes: 
Hmm o.k. I will take a look at it. Any reason why we haven't moved to
Docbook XML?   
Search the fine pgsql-docs archives.  And take the whole thread there
while you're at it.




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Re: PDF 7.4?

От
"Peter Eisentraut"
Дата:
Joshua D. Drake writes:
>   I reviewed the latest Docbook thread... the last email that i see is:

Try this:

http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-docs/2003-11/msg00049.php

and this:

http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-docs/2003-11/msg00069.php