Обсуждение: Using PGAdmin with a screen reader
Hi all, I'm a blind computer expert and i'm using a screen reader called JAWS for Windows (http://www.freedomscientific.com). Almost all of the PGAdmin functions can be used with JAWS, but the window that contains the SQL statements isn't accessible: JAWS doesn't recognize the cursor (or insertion point) when I move it from character to character, or from line to line. By default, JAWS can handle the standard Windows controls (edit fields, list boxes, etc.), but with a feature, I can reclass a non-standard control, so JAWS can handle the non-standard control as a standard control. For example, I've tried to reclass the window that contains the SQL statement to edit field, but I still have the same problem. A solution would be a standard edit field if possible. If you have an idea to solve this problem, please let me know! -- Regards: Zsolt
> -----Original Message----- > From: pgadmin-support-owner@postgresql.org > [mailto:pgadmin-support-owner@postgresql.org] On Behalf Of Torma Zsolt > Sent: 10 February 2005 14:51 > To: pgadmin-support@postgresql.org > Subject: [pgadmin-support] Using PGAdmin with a screen reader > > Hi all, > > I'm a blind computer expert and i'm using a screen reader > called JAWS for > Windows (http://www.freedomscientific.com). > > Almost all of the PGAdmin functions can be used with JAWS, > but the window > that contains the SQL statements isn't accessible: JAWS > doesn't recognize > the cursor (or insertion point) when I move it from character > to character, > or from line to line. Hi Zsolt, Which SQL window do you mean? There is one on the main form that displays the definition for the selected object, one for entering arbitrary SQL statements to execute, and one on most property dialogues, displaying the SQL that will be executed to implement the changes made to the object properties. If I remember correctly, they all use the same control, but each instance may not be used in the same way. Regards, Dave
Torma Zsolt wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm a blind computer expert and i'm using a screen reader called JAWS for > Windows (http://www.freedomscientific.com). > > Almost all of the PGAdmin functions can be used with JAWS, but the window > that contains the SQL statements isn't accessible: JAWS doesn't recognize > the cursor (or insertion point) when I move it from character to character, > or from line to line. > > By default, JAWS can handle the standard Windows controls (edit fields, list > boxes, etc.), but with a feature, I can reclass a non-standard control, so > JAWS can handle the non-standard control as a standard control. > > For example, I've tried to reclass the window that contains the SQL > statement to edit field, but I still have the same problem. > > A solution would be a standard edit field if possible. Well, the advantage of pgAdmin is that it does *not* use a standard edit field, providing syntax highlighting. What's in use is the Scintilla control (www.scintilla.org). According to your description, you should have the same problem with with the SciTE editor, which was meant as demonstration. Please check there, apparently the controls need some fixing. If it's fixed there, it has to be updated in the wxWidgets project, and will eventually be used in pgAdmin as well. Apparently you'll have to be very patient. Alternatively, you could hack the pgAdmin sources, modifying the class ctlSQLBox which is currently derived from wxStyledTextCtrl (wx' name for Scintilla). You could change that to wxTextCtrl, but you'd have to implement some wxSTC methods (many just have different names, others are no-ops for wxTextCtrl). Regards, Andreas
> -----Original Message----- > From: Torma Zsolt [mailto:torma.zsolt@sarabi.onyf.hu] > Sent: 10 February 2005 15:27 > To: Dave Page > Subject: Re: [pgadmin-support] Using PGAdmin with a screen reader > > Hi Dave, > > Hi Zsolt, > > Which SQL window do you mean? There is one on the main form that > displays the definition for the selected object, one for entering > arbitrary SQL statements to execute, and one on most property > dialogues, > displaying the SQL that will be executed to implement the changes made > to the object properties. > > None of them are accessible. Oh dear. In that case it sounds like a Scintilla problem as Andreas has suggested in his response. Can you try a recent version of Scite and see if that works? Regards, Dave.
Hi all, I've downloaded the SciTE editor and it's work fine with JAWS. Any other idea? -- Regards: Zsolt
Torma Zsolt wrote: > Hi all, > > I've downloaded the SciTE editor and it's work fine with JAWS. > > Any other idea? wxWidgets currently includes Scintilla 1.61, while on the Scintilla website the last version is 1.62. And it is announced as "Version 1.62 (..) is more supportive of screen reader applications on Windows." According to the release notes, your problem is fixed. I'll post on wx-dev the proposal to update to 1.62. Regards, Andreas
Hi Andreas, Many thanks! I'm waiting for the new version. -- Regards: Zsolt