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Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes
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Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
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Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
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Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes David Rowley <dgrowleyml@gmail.com>
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Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Amit Langote <amitlangote09@gmail.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Melanie Plageman <melanieplageman@gmail.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Joe Conway <mail@joeconway.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Melanie Plageman <melanieplageman@gmail.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Melanie Plageman <melanieplageman@gmail.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Jelte Fennema-Nio <postgres@jeltef.nl>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Melanie Plageman <melanieplageman@gmail.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes David Rowley <dgrowleyml@gmail.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes David Rowley <dgrowleyml@gmail.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Melanie Plageman <melanieplageman@gmail.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes David Rowley <dgrowleyml@gmail.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes David Rowley <dgrowleyml@gmail.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes John Naylor <johncnaylorls@gmail.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Melanie Plageman <melanieplageman@gmail.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes David Rowley <dgrowleyml@gmail.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes David Rowley <dgrowleyml@gmail.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes David Rowley <dgrowleyml@gmail.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes David Rowley <dgrowleyml@gmail.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Muhammad Ikram <mmikram@gmail.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes David Rowley <dgrowleyml@gmail.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes jian he <jian.universality@gmail.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes jian he <jian.universality@gmail.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes jian he <jian.universality@gmail.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Tender Wang <tndrwang@gmail.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Álvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes jian he <jian.universality@gmail.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes jian he <jian.universality@gmail.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes jian he <jian.universality@gmail.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes jian he <jian.universality@gmail.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes jian he <jian.universality@gmail.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes "David G. Johnston" <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
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Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Matthias van de Meent <boekewurm+postgres@gmail.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Kisoon Kwon <moxie2ks@gmail.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Jelte Fennema-Nio <postgres@jeltef.nl>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Jelte Fennema-Nio <postgres@jeltef.nl>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Joe Conway <mail@joeconway.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Jelte Fennema-Nio <postgres@jeltef.nl>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Aleksander Alekseev <aleksander@timescale.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bharath Rupireddy <bharath.rupireddyforpostgres@gmail.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bharath Rupireddy <bharath.rupireddyforpostgres@gmail.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Richard Guo <guofenglinux@gmail.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Marcos Pegoraro <marcos@f10.com.br>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bertrand Drouvot <bertranddrouvot.pg@gmail.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes jian he <jian.universality@gmail.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Jelte Fennema-Nio <postgres@jeltef.nl>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Jelte Fennema-Nio <postgres@jeltef.nl>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes Michael Banck <mbanck@gmx.net>
On Tue, May 21, 2024 at 02:26:15PM -0400, Melanie Plageman wrote:
> In Postgres development, we break larger projects into smaller ones
> and then those smaller projects into multiple individual commits. Each
> commit needs to stand alone and each subproject needs to have a
> defensible benefit. One thing that is harder with performance-related
> work than non-performance feature work is that there isn't always a
> final "turn it on" commit. For example, let's say you are adding a new
> view that tracks new stats of some kind. You do a bunch of refactoring
> and small subprojects to make it possible to add the view. Then the
> final commit that actually creates the view has obvious user value to
> whoever is reading the log. For performance features, it doesn't
> always work like this.
> 
> For the vacuum WAL volume reduction, there were a bunch of smaller
> projects throughout the last development year that I worked on that
> were committed by different people and with different individual
> benefits. Some changes caused vacuum to do less visibility checks (so
> less CPU usage), some changed WAL format in a way that saves some
> space, and some, like the commit you mention, make vacuum emit less
> WAL. That commit by itself doesn't contain all of the user benefits of
> the whole project. I couldn't think of a good place to list all of the
> commits together that were part of the same project. Perhaps you could
> argue that they were not in fact part of the same project and instead
> were just small individual changes -- none of which are individually
> worth including in the release notes.

I try and group them, but I am sure imperfectly.  It is very true that
infrastucture changes that enable later commits are often missed.

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