Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards

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Chapman Flack
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Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards
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PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Chapman Flack <chap@anastigmatix.net>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Chapman Flack <chap@anastigmatix.net>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Chapman Flack <chap@anastigmatix.net>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Markus Winand <markus.winand@winand.at>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Markus Winand <markus.winand@winand.at>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Chapman Flack <chap@anastigmatix.net>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Chapman Flack <chap@anastigmatix.net>
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Re: doc: where best to add ~ 400 words to the manual? Chapman Flack <chap@anastigmatix.net>
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Re: House style for DocBook documentation? Chapman Flack <chap@anastigmatix.net>
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Re: House style for DocBook documentation? Chapman Flack <chap@anastigmatix.net>
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Re: House style for DocBook documentation? Chapman Flack <chap@anastigmatix.net>
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Re: House style for DocBook documentation? Chapman Flack <chap@anastigmatix.net>
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Re: House style for DocBook documentation? Chapman Flack <chap@anastigmatix.net>
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Re: House style for DocBook documentation? Chapman Flack <chap@anastigmatix.net>
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Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Chapman Flack <chap@anastigmatix.net>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Ramanarayana <raam.soft@gmail.com>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Chapman Flack <chap@anastigmatix.net>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Chapman Flack <chap@anastigmatix.net>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Chapman Flack <chap@anastigmatix.net>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Chapman Flack <chap@anastigmatix.net>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Chapman Flack <chap@anastigmatix.net>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Chapman Flack <chap@anastigmatix.net>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Chapman Flack <chap@anastigmatix.net>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Chapman Flack <chap@anastigmatix.net>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Chapman Flack <chap@anastigmatix.net>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Chapman Flack <chap@anastigmatix.net>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Chapman Flack <chap@anastigmatix.net>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Chapman Flack <chap@anastigmatix.net>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Chapman Flack <chap@anastigmatix.net>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Chapman Flack <chap@anastigmatix.net>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Chapman Flack <chap@anastigmatix.net>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Chapman Flack <chap@anastigmatix.net>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Chapman Flack <chap@anastigmatix.net>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Chapman Flack <chap@anastigmatix.net>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Chapman Flack <chap@anastigmatix.net>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Chapman Flack <chap@anastigmatix.net>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Chapman Flack <chap@anastigmatix.net>
Re: Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards David Steele <david@pgmasters.net>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Arthur Zakirov <a.zakirov@postgrespro.ru>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Chapman Flack <chap@anastigmatix.net>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Chapman Flack <chap@anastigmatix.net>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Thomas Kellerer <spam_eater@gmx.net>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Chapman Flack <chap@anastigmatix.net>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Andreas Karlsson <andreas@proxel.se>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Andrew Dunstan <andrew.dunstan@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Jesper Pedersen <jesper.pedersen@redhat.com>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Chapman Flack <chap@anastigmatix.net>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Re: PostgreSQL vs SQL/XML Standards Chapman Flack <chap@anastigmatix.net>
On 02/01/19 20:20, Michael Paquier wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 04:26:31PM +0100, Pavel Stehule wrote:
>> I'll mark this patch as ready for commiters.
> 
> For now I have moved the patch to the next CF, with the same status.

I wonder whether, given the move to next CF, it makes sense to change
the title of the CF entry from "XMLTABLE" to, more generically, XML
improvements, and get one or two more small changes in:

- get XMLPARSE(CONTENT... (and cast-to-xml with XMLOPTION=content) to
  succeed even for content with DTDs, so that the content subtype really
  does fully include the document subtype, aligning it with the SQL:2006+
  standard. I think this would be a simple patch that I can deliver early
  this month, and Tom found reports where the current behavior already
  bites people in pg_restore. Its only effect would be to allow a currently-
  failing case to succeed (and stop biting people).

- get XMLEXISTS and XMLTABLE to allow passing of named parameters. I have
  less of a sense of how difficult that might be, but I see that the libxml
  xpath API does allow them. I don't know whether they were left out of the
  original development just arbitrarily, or whether some effort was made
  and ran into some problem.

  The value of supporting the named parameters, especially when the library
  limits us to XPath 1.0, is that the XPath 1.0 limitation that a value
  passed as the context item can only be an XML 'document' only applies to
  the context item, not to named parameters. So if somebody is trying to
  port an expression ...'foo(.)' PASSING bar... and bar is not in document
  form, there's a simple rewrite to ...'foo($a) PASSING bar AS a...
  whereas if we can't do named parameters, frustration ensues.

Again, the only effect of such a change would be to permit something that
currently isn't possible. I don't think I can promise to work on a patch
for the second issue, but they both seem worthwhile, and I'm happy to
work on the first.

It seems to me these changes and the doc patch to go with them are
closely enough related to fit in one CF entry that's still smaller and
simpler than many, and that shouldn't be too difficult to review for v12,
but I'll defer to more experienced voices.

Regards,
-Chap

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