Re: [HACKERS] Inprise/Borland releasing Interbase as Open source
От | Stephen Birch |
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Тема | Re: [HACKERS] Inprise/Borland releasing Interbase as Open source |
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Msg-id | 387279D2.E40315DC@ironmountainsystems.com обсуждение исходный текст |
Ответ на | Re: [HACKERS] Inprise/Borland releasing Interbase as Open source (The Hermit Hacker <scrappy@hub.org>) |
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Re: [HACKERS] Inprise/Borland releasing Interbase as Open source
(The Hermit Hacker <scrappy@hub.org>)
Re: [HACKERS] Inprise/Borland releasing Interbase as Open source (Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>) |
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Jan Wieck wrote: > I haven't seen that many. And what kind of a project leader must it be, > that a simple announcement causes the work of several programmers over > months (sounds at least like a man-year) to be thrown away? IMHO the > kind of PL, companies like M$ are targeting with their huge amount of > announcements. > Ouch - that hurt. Let me address the kind of project manager we are talking about here by looking back at the decision to move from MS to Linux: In fact, the move to Linux meant throwing away about 10 man years worth of work on WIN32. However, the cost savings to my employer were substantial as customer support issues disappeared overnight once the port was done. However, the 10 MY were not discarded over a single announcement, we watched Linux and experimented with it for about 3 years before starting the port. To see why we would abort development on a PostgreSQL port of our servers because of the IB announcement, you must understand why we financed the port to PG in the first place. When GNU changed the C run time library to 2.1 (again), it broke our IB 4.0 based software and prevented us from moving forward to the current SuSE 6.2 (at the time) release. We knew the IB problem could be fixed in an hour or two by recompiling the IB code - but we did not have the source and Borland considered 4.0 dead. In itself, this problem did not justify authorizing the PG development - but we felt it was indicative of future problems with IB. Hence we started to research PG to see if it was a suitable replacement. Investing in PG made me damn nervous because I failed to locate example sites trusting it with mission critical work. In fact, I was convinced by reading the discussion groups and noting the extremely high caliber of people working on PG and also the incredible integrity these guys have. Evenb though they don't make a dime from PostgreSQL, they really, really care about the software and its users. We now have PG based servers under test in the lab and are still solving PG issues before releasing alpha code. Of course, the IB announcement forces us to rethink the issue. As for me being influenced by marketing literature, especially from MS - you are way off mark. By the way, I was the idiot that specified NT to our customer base in the first place - I consider that to be the single worst decision of my successful 20 year computing career. One final point, I live in a 100% commercial world. In the capacity of my work, I am not concerned about the free software ethos, nor do I care if software is free or not (as in beer) - I just need to deploy solutions that work. Steve {{{{{{{{ {{{{{ 1 hour of real time passed here }}}}}}}}} Since writing the above, I was called to attend a telecon with my manager and the ITS managers from our two biggest customers to discuss exactly this issue. The decision has been made to deploy the PostgreSQL based server. We all agreed that whatever happens to Interbase, the personal commitment by the PostgreSQL folks is not likely to dry up. Hence the code will continue to improve over time. I believe that they clearly understand how important reliability is to a database server. There is a good chance that the Borland decision will have a benificial ripple effect on PG as other engineers turn their attention to Open Source alternatives. Wish us luck, we will load the new software on our customers' servers for a FOT (field operational test) next week. Steve
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