Re: Remaining beta blockers
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Tom Lane
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Re: Remaining beta blockers
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24328.1367163695@sss.pgh.pa.us
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Re: Remaining beta blockers (Robert Haas)
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Remaining beta blockers Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Kevin Grittner <kgrittn@ymail.com>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
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Re: Remaining beta blockers Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Kevin Grittner <kgrittn@ymail.com>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>
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Re: Remaining beta blockers Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Kevin Grittner <kgrittn@ymail.com>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
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Re: Remaining beta blockers Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
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Re: Remaining beta blockers Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Greg Stark <stark@mit.edu>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Kevin Grittner <kgrittn@ymail.com>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Kevin Grittner <kgrittn@ymail.com>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Kevin Grittner <kgrittn@ymail.com>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Kevin Grittner <kgrittn@ymail.com>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
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Re: Remaining beta blockers Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Kevin Grittner <kgrittn@ymail.com>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Robert Haas writes: > On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Tom Lane wrote: >> I cannot say that I find that idea attractive; the biggest problem with >> it being that updating such a state flag will be nontransactional, >> unless we go to a lot of effort to support rollbacks. ISTM that the >> scannability property is a perfectly normal relation property and as >> such *ought* to be in the pg_class row, or at worst some other catalog >> entry. Why do you think differently? > Mostly because of the issue with unlogged tables, I suppose. If > you've got a reasonable idea how to do catalog updates on restart, > though, I could probably be convinced to yield to that. Well, it's fairly clear *how* to do it: add some more processing that occurs after we've completed crash replay. We already have some of that, eg completion of partial splits in btrees, so it's not that much of a stretch; it's just a lot of code that's not been written yet. regards, tom lane
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