Re: Remaining beta blockers

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Tom Lane
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Re: Remaining beta blockers
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Remaining beta blockers Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Kevin Grittner <kgrittn@ymail.com>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
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Re: Remaining beta blockers Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Kevin Grittner <kgrittn@ymail.com>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
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Re: Remaining beta blockers Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
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Re: Remaining beta blockers Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
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Re: Remaining beta blockers Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
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Re: Remaining beta blockers Greg Stark <stark@mit.edu>
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Re: Remaining beta blockers Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
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Re: Remaining beta blockers Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
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Re: Remaining beta blockers Kevin Grittner <kgrittn@ymail.com>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
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Re: Remaining beta blockers Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
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Re: Remaining beta blockers Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
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Re: Remaining beta blockers Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Re: Remaining beta blockers Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>
Robert Haas  writes:
> On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Tom Lane  wrote:
>> I cannot say that I find that idea attractive; the biggest problem with
>> it being that updating such a state flag will be nontransactional,
>> unless we go to a lot of effort to support rollbacks.  ISTM that the
>> scannability property is a perfectly normal relation property and as
>> such *ought* to be in the pg_class row, or at worst some other catalog
>> entry.  Why do you think differently?

> Mostly because of the issue with unlogged tables, I suppose.  If
> you've got a reasonable  idea how to do catalog updates on restart,
> though, I could probably be convinced to yield to that.

Well, it's fairly clear *how* to do it: add some more processing that
occurs after we've completed crash replay.  We already have some of
that, eg completion of partial splits in btrees, so it's not that much
of a stretch; it's just a lot of code that's not been written yet.
		regards, tom lane


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