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[GENERAL] Alternative to pgAdmin Postgres Manager that support pgagent (jobs)

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Juliano
Дата:
Hi guys

I've been struggling for long years to find an alternative Postgres Manager that can support pgAgent jobs like pgAdmin does.

PgAdmin works fine, but, it is not good as Oracle Enterprise Manager or SQL Server Management Studio and there is a lot of bugs. The version 1 it is obsolete and the new version 1.6/2 sucks.

I have tried Dbeaver but apparently, support jobs for Oracle only.

Omnidb looks nice, but, I guess doesn't support pgAgent as well, any suggestions?

Re: [GENERAL] Alternative to pgAdmin Postgres Manager that supportpgagent (jobs)

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John R Pierce
Дата:
On 10/19/2017 3:15 PM, Juliano wrote:
>
> Omnidb looks nice, but, I guess doesn't support pgAgent as well, any 
> suggestions?


pgAgent isn't part of postgres, its part of pgAdmin.


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Re: [GENERAL] Alternative to pgAdmin Postgres Manager that supportpgagent (jobs)

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Adam Brusselback
Дата:
I'm currently in the same boat that I wish there was something better
for running jobs against Postgres than pgAgent.
Using pgAdmin to manage my numerous jobs isn't the best experience
i've ever had to say the least, but it does work.  No other tool I
have used will manage pgAgent jobs.

I worked to alleviate some of my pain with pgAgent, by re-writing the
entire agent portion: https://github.com/GoSimpleLLC/jpgAgent
It uses the same schema as pgAgent, and you can manage it with pgAdmin
just the same, it just has way more features, and has been extremely
stable for me.

One thing I have wanted to do for a while, is to write an entire
alternative job scheduler / management tool separate from pgAdmin
which will be dedicated to just that single purpose.
I put in a good bit of work on that, but haven't had time to go back
and get it to a point where I can actually release it:
https://github.com/Tostino/pgAutomator
The goal is to have a tool much closer to what is available for SQL
Server, or Oracle compared to what we have today.  The backend stuff
is mostly working, I just need to find time to write a frontend to
manage it.

Anyways, sorry for a bit of rambling.  My main point was that this is
something that has been a personal pain point, and I haven't found
anything I liked better up to this point in time.
I'm slowly working on remedying that, but until the time my
alternative is ready, i'm sticking with (j)pgAgent, and pgAdmin to
manage it.

Thanks,
-Adam


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Re: [GENERAL] Alternative to pgAdmin Postgres Manager that supportpgagent (jobs)

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John R Pierce
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On 10/19/2017 8:14 PM, Adam Brusselback wrote:
> No other tool I
> have used will manage pgAgent jobs.

they can be managed with SQL, the schema pgAgent uses really isn't that 
complicated.   each job is a row in a table, IIRC.

there's also pg_cron,  I've never used it, but it is standalone, and 
managed by SQL statements.


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Re: [GENERAL] Alternative to pgAdmin Postgres Manager that support pgagent (jobs)

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Juliano
Дата:
Thanks to everyone for your great answers

I have looked into pg_cron, jpgAgent and pgAutomator and enjoyed (j)pgAgent + pgAdmin so far

pg_cron looks great but rewrite my 346 jobs seems painful

Adam your tool is really nice and I would be glad to help on this project, btw I am not a developer but I would like to start to code as well

Regards
Juliano

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Alternative to pgAdmin Postgres Manager that support pgagent (jobs)
Local Time: 20 October 2017 4:14 AM
UTC Time: 20 October 2017 03:14

I'm currently in the same boat that I wish there was something better
for running jobs against Postgres than pgAgent.
Using pgAdmin to manage my numerous jobs isn't the best experience
i've ever had to say the least, but it does work. No other tool I
have used will manage pgAgent jobs.

I worked to alleviate some of my pain with pgAgent, by re-writing the
It uses the same schema as pgAgent, and you can manage it with pgAdmin
just the same, it just has way more features, and has been extremely
stable for me.

One thing I have wanted to do for a while, is to write an entire
alternative job scheduler / management tool separate from pgAdmin
which will be dedicated to just that single purpose.
I put in a good bit of work on that, but haven't had time to go back
and get it to a point where I can actually release it:
The goal is to have a tool much closer to what is available for SQL
Server, or Oracle compared to what we have today. The backend stuff
is mostly working, I just need to find time to write a frontend to
manage it.

Anyways, sorry for a bit of rambling. My main point was that this is
something that has been a personal pain point, and I haven't found
anything I liked better up to this point in time.
I'm slowly working on remedying that, but until the time my
alternative is ready, i'm sticking with (j)pgAgent, and pgAdmin to
manage it.

Thanks,
-Adam

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Re: [GENERAL] Alternative to pgAdmin Postgres Manager that supportpgagent (jobs)

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Adam Brusselback
Дата:
Happy to hear jpgAgent is working alright for you.  If you have any
questions with it feel free to ask me.

If you do want to help with pgAutomator, that sounds like something
you could start to learn on.  jpgAgent is pretty much feature complete
as far as my needs go, and no one has requested any additional
features, so i'd rather spend any new time on pgAutomator.

So one thing I know I need, is to figure out how to package a Postgres
extension, and get it onto pgxn.  The database portion of pgAutomator
is pretty complete at this point, so it'd be nice to learn how to
package it up even if I don't end up publishing it until I get a UI in
place.  I'll have to look, but i'm sure there are plenty of small
tasks that can be done with the agent itself as well.


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Re: [GENERAL] Alternative to pgAdmin Postgres Manager that support pgagent (jobs)

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Juliano
Дата:
Great!

No worries, after work I will start with some surveys about how to package Postgres extension, and get it onto pgxn.

Thanks
Juliano

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Alternative to pgAdmin Postgres Manager that support pgagent (jobs)
Local Time: October 21, 2017 9:18 PM
UTC Time: October 21, 2017 8:18 PM
From: adambrusselback@gmail.com
To: Juliano <jplinux@protonmail.com>
pgsql-general@postgresql.org <pgsql-general@postgresql.org>

Happy to hear jpgAgent is working alright for you. If you have any
questions with it feel free to ask me.

If you do want to help with pgAutomator, that sounds like something
you could start to learn on. jpgAgent is pretty much feature complete
as far as my needs go, and no one has requested any additional
features, so i'd rather spend any new time on pgAutomator.

So one thing I know I need, is to figure out how to package a Postgres
extension, and get it onto pgxn. The database portion of pgAutomator
is pretty complete at this point, so it'd be nice to learn how to
package it up even if I don't end up publishing it until I get a UI in
place. I'll have to look, but i'm sure there are plenty of small
tasks that can be done with the agent itself as well.