Обсуждение: Status update
Hi, I think the new multilingual website system is working now (well, the technical side works, I have not added all pages andfiles yet). You can find it on http://wwwdevel2.postgresql.org It would be good to get some comments / suggestions on the code now... you can find it at /home/www.postgresql.com/andreas/public_htmlor view it on the web at http://svn.gamecrashnet.de/repos/pgsql_org/ Some comments on how the system works: Every request goes through some RewriteRules in the .htaccess file. If the files exists in the cache directory, this oneis delivered (for performance reasons). If the is for a file in the /admin, /layout or the /files directory, nothing happens.Every other request gets redirected to the script /system/handler.php (or /system/handleform.php which handles everydynamic request) where the pages get built and delivered dynamically. There is a script in the /tools directory called "rebuildcache" written in PHP, this can rebuild parts or or the whole cachedirectory. just call it without arguments to get the help. The cache directory contains all static pages and elements,so this can be used to mirror the whole website (all dynamic contents get linked to postgresql.org statically). Is there a problem with this? Or is something missing? Mit freundlichen Grüßen Andreas Grabmüller -- LetzPlay.de | Freemail: http://www.letzplay.de/mail | Forenhosting: http://www.letzplay.de/foren
Hi Andreas, This definitely looks like a good start. Found it difficult to get the German version of the site to load automatically (Mozilla probably needed a restart after changing the language selection, but I had too many other windows open with interesting things in them to want to close them...). Is there a strategy in place for creating news and events in languages other than English? We'd probably want to manage the events and news a bit seperately from each other... or at least have a "language" field for each news/event so it only displays the relevant ones. This might or might not have been considered already though, with me having missed the conversation... ;-) Regards and best wishes, Justin Clift Andreas GrabmXller wrote: > Hi, > > I think the new multilingual website system is working now (well, the technical side works, I have not added all pagesand files yet). You can find it on http://wwwdevel2.postgresql.org > > It would be good to get some comments / suggestions on the code now... you can find it at /home/www.postgresql.com/andreas/public_htmlor view it on the web at http://svn.gamecrashnet.de/repos/pgsql_org/ > > Some comments on how the system works: > > Every request goes through some RewriteRules in the .htaccess file. If the files exists in the cache directory, this oneis delivered (for performance reasons). If the is for a file in the /admin, /layout or the /files directory, nothing happens.Every other request gets redirected to the script /system/handler.php (or /system/handleform.php which handles everydynamic request) where the pages get built and delivered dynamically. > > There is a script in the /tools directory called "rebuildcache" written in PHP, this can rebuild parts or or the wholecache directory. just call it without arguments to get the help. The cache directory contains all static pages and elements,so this can be used to mirror the whole website (all dynamic contents get linked to postgresql.org statically). > > Is there a problem with this? Or is something missing? > > Mit freundlichen Grüßen > Andreas Grabmüller > > -- > LetzPlay.de > | Freemail: http://www.letzplay.de/mail > | Forenhosting: http://www.letzplay.de/foren > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 8: explain analyze is your friend
Hi, Mozilla allows you to set multiple languages I think... will have to check what headers it sends then... news and events can be translated in the new admin area (http://wwwdevel2.postgresql.org/admin/ - don't miss the trailingslash!), you can add yourself to the .htaccess in that directory to have a look at it. It's password protected asit acts on the live database - please be careful on it ;) I will add the possibility to translate the polls, too - thisis implemented in the website, but missint in the admin area. It's currently implemented in a way that every news and event is added in english and then translated by us in the adminarea. Those entries not yet translated automatically fall back to the english ones... There are some new database tables for it, called events_text, news_text and survey_questions. Documentation can be translated by simply adding the new entries to the documentation table in the database using the correctlanguage code. ----- Original-Nachricht ----- Von: "Justin Clift" <justin@postgresql.org> An: webmaster@letzplay.de CC: pgsql-www@postgresql.org Datum: Saturday, August 30, 2003 05:48 PM Betreff: [pgsql-www] Status update > Hi Andreas, > > This definitely looks like a good start. Found it difficult to get the > German version of the site to load automatically (Mozilla probably > needed a restart after changing the language selection, but I had too > many other windows open with interesting things in them to want to close > them...). > > Is there a strategy in place for creating news and events in languages > other than English? > > We'd probably want to manage the events and news a bit seperately from > each other... or at least have a "language" field for each news/event so > it only displays the relevant ones. > > This might or might not have been considered already though, with me > having missed the conversation... > > ;-) > > Regards and best wishes, > > Justin Clift > > > Andreas GrabmXller wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I think the new multilingual website system is working now (well, the technical side works, I have not added all pagesand files yet). You can find it on http://wwwdevel2.postgresql.org > > > > It would be good to get some comments / suggestions on the code now... you can find it at /home/www.postgresql.com/andreas/public_htmlor view it on the web at http://svn.gamecrashnet.de/repos/pgsql_org/ > > > > Some comments on how the system works: > > > > Every request goes through some RewriteRules in the .htaccess file. If the files exists in the cache directory, thisone is delivered (for performance reasons). If the is for a file in the /admin, /layout or the /files directory, nothinghappens. Every other request gets redirected to the script /system/handler.php (or /system/handleform.php which handlesevery dynamic request) where the pages get built and delivered dynamically. > > > > There is a script in the /tools directory called "rebuildcache" written in PHP, this can rebuild parts or or the wholecache directory. just call it without arguments to get the help. The cache directory contains all static pages and elements,so this can be used to mirror the whole website (all dynamic contents get linked to postgresql.org statically). > > > > Is there a problem with this? Or is something missing? > > > > Mit freundlichen Grüßen > > Andreas Grabmüller > > > > -- > > LetzPlay.de > > | Freemail: http://www.letzplay.de/mail > > | Forenhosting: http://www.letzplay.de/foren > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > > TIP 8: explain analyze is your friend -- LetzPlay.de | Freemail: http://www.letzplay.de/mail | Forenhosting: http://www.letzplay.de/foren
> -----Original Message----- > From: Andreas Grabmüller [mailto:webmaster@letzplay.de] > Sent: 30 August 2003 14:22 > To: pgsql-www@postgresql.org > Subject: [pgsql-www] Status update > > > Hi, > > I think the new multilingual website system is working now > (well, the technical side works, I have not added all pages > and files yet). You can find it on http://wwwdevel2.postgresql.org Hi Andreas, Looks very good! Nice work. Yuo probably noticed already, but the page design has been updated slightly on the live site- that shouldn't be difficult to update however. The golden question though, is how does it handle mirroring? Currently, we mirror all non-php pages, excluding a select few(things like the buildscripts). None of the mirrors have any special configuration, or even PHP these days. Is this goingto cause any problems, or will it work? Regards, Dave.
Hi Dave, It *should* work fine - there are many .htm files in the cache directory, also the layout and files directory. The only thingmissing is a nice index page and they can simply mirror the cache directory. The only pages not cached/mirrored currentlyare download.htm and mirrors.htm as the mirrors-near-you-feature need php. The design gets created using 4 "template" files, should be no problem to change this. But the only difference I see (yet)is the bigger font size of the top menu, and when we increase this the german menu gets too long... :( Oh, and Justin, the language auto-selection should work now with Mozilla. To test it you will have to clear your cookiesfor that server as the script sets a cookie that overrides that browser setting... Mit freundlichen Grüßen Andreas Grabmüller ----- Original-Nachricht ----- Von: "Dave Page" <dpage@vale-housing.co.uk> An: <webmaster@letzplay.de>, <pgsql-www@postgresql.org> Datum: Saturday, August 30, 2003 11:34 PM Betreff: [pgsql-www] Status update > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Andreas Grabmüller [mailto:webmaster@letzplay.de] > > Sent: 30 August 2003 14:22 > > To: pgsql-www@postgresql.org > > Subject: [pgsql-www] Status update > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I think the new multilingual website system is working now > > (well, the technical side works, I have not added all pages > > and files yet). You can find it on http://wwwdevel2.postgresql.org > > Hi Andreas, > > Looks very good! Nice work. Yuo probably noticed already, but the page design has been updated slightly on the live site- that shouldn't be difficult to update however. > > The golden question though, is how does it handle mirroring? Currently, we mirror all non-php pages, excluding a selectfew (things like the buildscripts). None of the mirrors have any special configuration, or even PHP these days. Isthis going to cause any problems, or will it work? > > Regards, Dave. -- LetzPlay.de | Freemail: http://www.letzplay.de/mail | Forenhosting: http://www.letzplay.de/foren
It's rumoured that Andreas Grabmüller once said: > Hi Dave, > > It *should* work fine - there are many .htm files in the cache > directory, also the layout and files directory. The only thing missing > is a nice index page and they can simply mirror the cache directory. > The only pages not cached/mirrored currently are download.htm and > mirrors.htm as the mirrors-near-you-feature need php. OK. I'll see if I can get some time in the week to setup a mirror on one of my servers so we can see if there are any issues. > The design gets created using 4 "template" files, should be no problem > to change this. But the only difference I see (yet) is the bigger font > size of the top menu, and when we increase this the german menu gets > too long... :( Yes, that was always an issue in English. Can you get a shorter language? :-) Seriously though, the font sizes were increased all over the place, including the side bars, and the main content. If you haven't hacked them about too much, it might be easier to try to merge the style sheets and globals.php. Regards, Dave.
> -----Original Message----- > From: Andreas Grabmüller [mailto:webmaster@letzplay.de] > Sent: 30 August 2003 22:55 > To: Dave Page; webmaster@letzplay.de; pgsql-www@postgresql.org > Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] Status update > > > Hi Dave, > > It *should* work fine - there are many .htm files in the > cache directory, also the layout and files directory. The > only thing missing is a nice index page and they can simply > mirror the cache directory. The only pages not > cached/mirrored currently are download.htm and mirrors.htm as > the mirrors-near-you-feature need php. Hi Andreas, Sorry for the delay, however I've been extremely busy recently. It looks good to me from here - I have rsync'd a copy, and that seems OK. I take it the idea is that the tools/rebuildcachescript will replace the current scripts that build the whole site? How quickly does it run - the currentstuff takes only a few minutes. If you can sort a mirrorable index page, and bring the content/design up to date then I think we're ready to go. What does everyone else think? I'd like to hear more opinions before making such a large change to the site live. Regards, Dave.
----- Original-Nachricht ----- Von: "Dave Page" <dpage@vale-housing.co.uk> An: <webmaster@letzplay.de>, <pgsql-www@postgresql.org> Datum: Monday, September 08, 2003 03:58 PM Betreff: [pgsql-www] Status update > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Andreas Grabmüller [mailto:webmaster@letzplay.de] > > Sent: 30 August 2003 22:55 > > To: Dave Page; webmaster@letzplay.de; pgsql-www@postgresql.org > > Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] Status update > > > > > > Hi Dave, > > > > It *should* work fine - there are many .htm files in the > > cache directory, also the layout and files directory. The > > only thing missing is a nice index page and they can simply > > mirror the cache directory. The only pages not > > cached/mirrored currently are download.htm and mirrors.htm as > > the mirrors-near-you-feature need php. > > Hi Andreas, > > Sorry for the delay, however I've been extremely busy recently. > > It looks good to me from here - I have rsync'd a copy, and that seems OK. I take it the idea is that the tools/rebuildcachescript will replace the current scripts that build the whole site? How quickly does it run - the currentstuff takes only a few minutes. > > If you can sort a mirrorable index page, and bring the content/design up to date then I think we're ready to go. > > What does everyone else think? I'd like to hear more opinions before making such a large change to the site live. > > Regards, Dave. Hi Dave, yes, the rebuildcache script is made to build the whole site. In my last test it has taken about one minute to rebuild everythingexcept the documentation (which takes really long) in two languages. But I don't think it is necessary to rebuildthe docs very often? I'm currently working on getting the new design working. As we have problems with the different length of the words in thedifferent languages, I'm replacing the style= parts of the code with a class= and putting that formatting informationinto postgresql_en.css and postgresql_de.css so we can use different sizes for every language... Mit freundlichen Grüßen Andreas Grabmüller -- LetzPlay.de | Freemail: http://www.letzplay.de/mail | Forenhosting: http://www.letzplay.de/foren
> -----Original Message----- > From: Andreas Grabmüller [mailto:webmaster@letzplay.de] > Sent: 08 September 2003 17:28 > To: Dave Page; webmaster@letzplay.de; pgsql-www@postgresql.org > Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] Status update > > > yes, the rebuildcache script is made to build the whole site. > In my last test it has taken about one minute to rebuild > everything except the documentation (which takes really long) > in two languages. But I don't think it is necessary to > rebuild the docs very often? Currently the whole site is done hourly. It certainly doesn't have to be that regular for the docs, though I think the frontpage should be to pick up new events etc. > I'm currently working on getting the new design working. As > we have problems with the different length of the words in > the different languages, I'm replacing the style= parts of > the code with a class= and putting that formatting > information into postgresql_en.css and postgresql_de.css so > we can use different sizes for every language... OK. What about a slight redesign to allow the wrapping to occur without messing up the formatting? Alternatively, Robertwas looking at making a non-fixed width version of the site which might solve this problem. Regards, Dave.
Hi Dave, > > I'm currently working on getting the new design working. As > > we have problems with the different length of the words in > > the different languages, I'm replacing the style= parts of > > the code with a class= and putting that formatting > > information into postgresql_en.css and postgresql_de.css so > > we can use different sizes for every language... > > OK. What about a slight redesign to allow the wrapping to occur without messing up the formatting? Alternatively, Robertwas looking at making a non-fixed width version of the site which might solve this problem. > > Regards, Dave. Well, I'm not very good in designing, but if you give me something I will implement it ;) Mit freundlichen Grüßen Andreas Grabmüller -- LetzPlay.de | Freemail: http://www.letzplay.de/mail | Forenhosting: http://www.letzplay.de/foren
> -----Original Message----- > From: Andreas Grabmüller [mailto:webmaster@letzplay.de] > Sent: 08 September 2003 20:16 > To: Dave Page; webmaster@letzplay.de; pgsql-www@postgresql.org > Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] Status update > > > Hi Dave, > > > > I'm currently working on getting the new design working. As > > > we have problems with the different length of the words in > > > the different languages, I'm replacing the style= parts of > > > the code with a class= and putting that formatting > > > information into postgresql_en.css and postgresql_de.css so > > > we can use different sizes for every language... > > > > OK. What about a slight redesign to allow the wrapping to occur > > without messing up the formatting? Alternatively, Robert > was looking > > at making a non-fixed width version of the site which might > solve this > > problem. > > > > Regards, Dave. > > Well, I'm not very good in designing, but if you give me > something I will implement it ;) Sorry, I just don't have time right now. Go with your current idea for now if you prefer - we can always revisit the problemin the future. :-) Regards, Dave.
----- Original-Nachricht ----- Von: "Dave Page" <dpage@vale-housing.co.uk> An: <webmaster@letzplay.de>, <pgsql-www@postgresql.org> Datum: Monday, September 08, 2003 09:15 PM Betreff: [pgsql-www] Status update > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Andreas Grabmüller [mailto:webmaster@letzplay.de] > > Sent: 08 September 2003 20:16 > > To: Dave Page; webmaster@letzplay.de; pgsql-www@postgresql.org > > Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] Status update > > > > > > Hi Dave, > > > > > > I'm currently working on getting the new design working. As > > > > we have problems with the different length of the words in > > > > the different languages, I'm replacing the style= parts of > > > > the code with a class= and putting that formatting > > > > information into postgresql_en.css and postgresql_de.css so > > > > we can use different sizes for every language... > > > > > > OK. What about a slight redesign to allow the wrapping to occur > > > without messing up the formatting? Alternatively, Robert > > was looking > > > at making a non-fixed width version of the site which might > > solve this > > > problem. > > > > > > Regards, Dave. > > > > Well, I'm not very good in designing, but if you give me > > something I will implement it ;) > > Sorry, I just don't have time right now. Go with your current idea for now if you prefer - we can always revisit the problemin the future. > > :-) > > Regards, Dave. Okay, then I will do that for now... Mit freundlichen Grüßen Andreas Grabmüller -- LetzPlay.de | Freemail: http://www.letzplay.de/mail | Forenhosting: http://www.letzplay.de/foren
-On [20030908 21:12], Andreas Grabmüller (webmaster@letzplay.de) wrote: >Well, I'm not very good in designing, but if you give me something I >will implement it ;) Sorry for piping in here guys, but I've recently redone the tendra.org site (be aware, the IPv6 address points to the new machine and isn't working yet) and would like to help on designing a bit more usable postgresql.org site. Could someone be so kind to inform me what is being done at the moment, because I have some ideas I want to work out and present to you people over the course of the coming days/weeks. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven <asmodai(at)wxs.nl> / asmodai PGP fingerprint: 2D92 980E 45FE 2C28 9DB7 9D88 97E6 839B 2EAC 625B http://www.tendra.org/ | http://www.in-nomine.org/~asmodai/diary/ Angel to some, Daemon to others...
> -----Original Message----- > From: Jeroen Ruigrok/asmodai [mailto:asmodai@wxs.nl] > Sent: 08 September 2003 20:16 > To: Andreas Grabmüller > Cc: Dave Page; pgsql-www@postgresql.org > Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] Status update > > > -On [20030908 21:12], Andreas Grabmüller > (webmaster@letzplay.de) wrote: > >Well, I'm not very good in designing, but if you give me something I > >will implement it ;) > > Sorry for piping in here guys, > > but I've recently redone the tendra.org site (be aware, the > IPv6 address points to the new machine and isn't working yet) > and would like to help on designing a bit more usable > postgresql.org site. > > Could someone be so kind to inform me what is being done at > the moment, because I have some ideas I want to work out and > present to you people over the course of the coming days/weeks. Hi Jeroen The major project right now is Andreas' baby - namely to recode the site in an translatable and easily maintainable format.Further info is best left to Andreas as I'm not familiar with the details of his implementation. Regards, Dave.
On Mon, 2003-09-08 at 15:20, Andreas Grabmüller wrote:
> ----- Original-Nachricht -----
> Von: "Dave Page" <dpage@vale-housing.co.uk>
> An: <webmaster@letzplay.de>, <pgsql-www@postgresql.org>
> Datum: Monday, September 08, 2003 09:15 PM
> Betreff: [pgsql-www] Status update
>
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Andreas Grabmüller [mailto:webmaster@letzplay.de]
> > > Sent: 08 September 2003 20:16
> > > To: Dave Page; webmaster@letzplay.de; pgsql-www@postgresql.org
> > > Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] Status update
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Dave,
> > >
> > > > > I'm currently working on getting the new design working. As
> > > > > we have problems with the different length of the words in
> > > > > the different languages, I'm replacing the style= parts of
> > > > > the code with a class= and putting that formatting
> > > > > information into postgresql_en.css and postgresql_de.css so
> > > > > we can use different sizes for every language...
> > > >
> > > > OK. What about a slight redesign to allow the wrapping to occur
> > > > without messing up the formatting? Alternatively, Robert
> > > was looking
> > > > at making a non-fixed width version of the site which might
> > > solve this
> > > > problem.
> > > >
> > > > Regards, Dave.
> > >
> > > Well, I'm not very good in designing, but if you give me
> > > something I will implement it ;)
> >
> > Sorry, I just don't have time right now. Go with your current idea for now if you prefer - we can always revisit
theproblem in the future.
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > Regards, Dave.
>
> Okay, then I will do that for now...
>
Unfortunately I am slammed right now too, but I'd much rather see an
implementation that no longers uses fixed widths than separates our css
files into different langs... I had somewhat stopped waiting for your
lang changes to get committed before working further on it... Andreas,
if I show you what I was working on do you have an interest in
implementing it?
Robert Treat
--
Build A Brighter Lamp :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL
----- Original-Nachricht ----- Von: "Dave Page" <dpage@vale-housing.co.uk> An: "Jeroen Ruigrok/asmodai" <asmodai@wxs.nl>, Andreas_Grabmüller <webmaster@letzplay.de> CC: <pgsql-www@postgresql.org> Datum: Monday, September 08, 2003 09:37 PM Betreff: [pgsql-www] Status update > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jeroen Ruigrok/asmodai [mailto:asmodai@wxs.nl] > > Sent: 08 September 2003 20:16 > > To: Andreas Grabmüller > > Cc: Dave Page; pgsql-www@postgresql.org > > Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] Status update > > > > > > -On [20030908 21:12], Andreas Grabmüller > > (webmaster@letzplay.de) wrote: > > >Well, I'm not very good in designing, but if you give me something I > > >will implement it ;) > > > > Sorry for piping in here guys, > > > > but I've recently redone the tendra.org site (be aware, the > > IPv6 address points to the new machine and isn't working yet) > > and would like to help on designing a bit more usable > > postgresql.org site. > > > > Could someone be so kind to inform me what is being done at > > the moment, because I have some ideas I want to work out and > > present to you people over the course of the coming days/weeks. > > Hi Jeroen > > The major project right now is Andreas' baby - namely to recode the site in an translatable and easily maintainable format.Further info is best left to Andreas as I'm not familiar with the details of his implementation. > > Regards, Dave. Hi, not sure if there's much left to say... the codebase has been completely rewritten, but the layout (currently) is the sameas before. You can see the current status at http://wwwdevel2.postgresql.org Mit freundlichen Grüßen Andreas Grabmüller -- LetzPlay.de | Freemail: http://www.letzplay.de/mail | Forenhosting: http://www.letzplay.de/foren
----- Original-Nachricht -----
Von: "Robert Treat" <xzilla@users.sourceforge.net>
An: webmaster@letzplay.de
CC: Dave Page <dpage@vale-housing.co.uk>, pgsql-www@postgresql.org
Datum: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 12:59 AM
Betreff: [pgsql-www] Status update
> Unfortunately I am slammed right now too, but I'd much rather see an
> implementation that no longers uses fixed widths than separates our css
> files into different langs... I had somewhat stopped waiting for your
> lang changes to get committed before working further on it... Andreas,
> if I show you what I was working on do you have an interest in
> implementing it?
>
> Robert Treat
> --
> Build A Brighter Lamp :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL
Yes, of course :)
--
LetzPlay.de
| Freemail: http://www.letzplay.de/mail
| Forenhosting: http://www.letzplay.de/foren
What about this? http://wwwdevel2.postgresql.org This would maybe allow us to have at least the right menu on the documentation pages... Mit freundlichen Grüßen Andreas Grabmüller ----- Original-Nachricht ----- Von: "Robert Treat" <xzilla@users.sourceforge.net> An: webmaster@letzplay.de CC: Dave Page <dpage@vale-housing.co.uk>, pgsql-www@postgresql.org Datum: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 12:59 AM Betreff: [pgsql-www] Status update > Unfortunately I am slammed right now too, but I'd much rather see an > implementation that no longers uses fixed widths than separates our css > files into different langs... I had somewhat stopped waiting for your > lang changes to get committed before working further on it... Andreas, > if I show you what I was working on do you have an interest in > implementing it? > > Robert Treat > -- > Build A Brighter Lamp :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL -- LetzPlay.de | Freemail: http://www.letzplay.de/mail | Forenhosting: http://www.letzplay.de/foren
> -----Original Message----- > From: Andreas Grabmüller [mailto:webmaster@letzplay.de] > Sent: 21 September 2003 21:47 > To: xzilla@users.sourceforge.net; webmaster@letzplay.de; Dave > Page; pgsql-www@postgresql.org > Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] Status update > > > What about this? > > http://wwwdevel2.postgresql.org > > This would maybe allow us to have at least the right menu on the documentation pages... Hey, now that works well. We could add the sidebars to all pages with that design - what do the rest of you guys think? I think this looks like it's about ready for primetime now Andreas - the only problems I could see are that the fonts arestill smaller than we now use on the site, and on the mirrors page, 'We think this mirrors are near you:' should probablyread 'We think this mirrors is near you:'. The preselected mirror should probably also be centered in the page. How will that mirror code work on the mirrors? Regards, Dave.
Hi Dave, ----- Original-Nachricht ----- Von: "Dave Page" <dpage@vale-housing.co.uk> An: <webmaster@letzplay.de>, <xzilla@users.sourceforge.net>, <pgsql-www@postgresql.org> Datum: Monday, September 22, 2003 09:26 AM Betreff: [pgsql-www] Status update > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Andreas Grabmüller [mailto:webmaster@letzplay.de] > > Sent: 21 September 2003 21:47 > > To: xzilla@users.sourceforge.net; webmaster@letzplay.de; Dave > > Page; pgsql-www@postgresql.org > > Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] Status update > > > > > > What about this? > > > > http://wwwdevel2.postgresql.org > > > > This would maybe allow us to have at least the right menu on the documentation pages... > > Hey, now that works well. We could add the sidebars to all pages with that design - what do the rest of you guys think? Well, the right sidebar is a good idea. I think we should not use the left one on the documentation pages as that would requireus to rebuild the documentation too often to renew the surveys an gborg stats... > I think this looks like it's about ready for primetime now Andreas - the only problems I could see are that the fonts arestill smaller than we now use on the site, The left and right bars and the menu should have the same font sizes as on the main site. I have not yet updated the templatesfor the inner pages... > and on the mirrors page, 'We think this mirrors are near you:' should probably read 'We think this mirrors is near you:'.The preselected mirror should probably also be centered in the page. For me here in Germany it shows 4 FTP mirrors for example... I think that 'is' wouldn't be grammatically correct then? > How will that mirror code work on the mirrors? Well, the simple anser: It won't. The links to the download.htm and to the mirrors.htm are currently hardcoded to the mainwebsite, as the actions for all the forms are. > Regards, Dave. Mit freundlichen Grüßen Andreas Grabmüller -- LetzPlay.de | Freemail: http://www.letzplay.de/mail | Forenhosting: http://www.letzplay.de/foren
> -----Original Message----- > From: Andreas Grabmüller [mailto:webmaster@letzplay.de] > Sent: 22 September 2003 09:43 > To: Dave Page; webmaster@letzplay.de; > xzilla@users.sourceforge.net; pgsql-www@postgresql.org > Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] Status update > > > Hi Dave, > > ----- Original-Nachricht ----- > Von: "Dave Page" <dpage@vale-housing.co.uk> > An: <webmaster@letzplay.de>, <xzilla@users.sourceforge.net>, > <pgsql-www@postgresql.org> > Datum: Monday, September 22, 2003 09:26 AM > Betreff: [pgsql-www] Status update > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Andreas Grabmüller [mailto:webmaster@letzplay.de] > > > Sent: 21 September 2003 21:47 > > > To: xzilla@users.sourceforge.net; webmaster@letzplay.de; Dave > > > Page; pgsql-www@postgresql.org > > > Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] Status update > > > > > > > > > What about this? > > > > > > http://wwwdevel2.postgresql.org > > > > > > This would maybe allow us to have at least the right menu on the > > > documentation pages... > > > > Hey, now that works well. We could add the sidebars to all > pages with > > that design - what do the rest of you guys think? > > Well, the right sidebar is a good idea. I think we should not > use the left one on the documentation pages as that would > require us to rebuild the documentation too often to renew > the surveys an gborg stats... Hmm, I'm not sure how that would look - might be a bit odd. Perhaps it should stay as it is. > > I think this looks like it's about ready for primetime now > Andreas - > > the only problems I could see are that the fonts are still smaller > > than we now use on the site, > > The left and right bars and the menu should have the same > font sizes as on the main site. I have not yet updated the > templates for the inner pages... It's the main body text I noticed which is still different even on the index page. > > and on the mirrors page, 'We think this mirrors are near > you:' should > > probably read 'We think this mirrors is near you:'. The preselected > > mirror should probably also be centered in the page. > > For me here in Germany it shows 4 FTP mirrors for example... > I think that 'is' wouldn't be grammatically correct then? It would be if you changed 'this mirrors' to 'these mirrors' as well. > > How will that mirror code work on the mirrors? > > Well, the simple anser: It won't. The links to the > download.htm and to the mirrors.htm are currently hardcoded > to the main website, as the actions for all the forms are. OK :-) Regards, Dave.
Can we align the middle / main section to span as far right as the middle/top section? otherwise seems ok to me. Robert Treat On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 03:26, Dave Page wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Andreas Grabmüller [mailto:webmaster@letzplay.de] > > Sent: 21 September 2003 21:47 > > To: xzilla@users.sourceforge.net; webmaster@letzplay.de; Dave > > Page; pgsql-www@postgresql.org > > Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] Status update > > > > > > What about this? > > > > http://wwwdevel2.postgresql.org > > > > This would maybe allow us to have at least the right menu on the documentation pages... > > Hey, now that works well. We could add the sidebars to all pages with that design - what do the rest of you guys think? > > I think this looks like it's about ready for primetime now Andreas - the only problems I could see are that the fonts arestill smaller than we now use on the site, and on the mirrors page, 'We think this mirrors are near you:' should probablyread 'We think this mirrors is near you:'. The preselected mirror should probably also be centered in the page. > > How will that mirror code work on the mirrors? > > Regards, Dave. > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space map settings -- Build A Brighter Lamp :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL
Mit freundlichen Grüßen Andreas Grabmüller ----- Original-Nachricht ----- Von: "Robert Treat" <xzilla@users.sourceforge.net> An: Dave Page <dpage@vale-housing.co.uk> CC: webmaster@letzplay.de, pgsql-www@postgresql.org Datum: Monday, September 29, 2003 09:30 PM Betreff: [pgsql-www] Status update > Can we align the middle / main section to span as far right as the > middle/top section? otherwise seems ok to me. > > Robert Treat > > On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 03:26, Dave Page wrote: > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Andreas Grabmüller [mailto:webmaster@letzplay.de] > > > Sent: 21 September 2003 21:47 > > > To: xzilla@users.sourceforge.net; webmaster@letzplay.de; Dave > > > Page; pgsql-www@postgresql.org > > > Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] Status update > > > > > > > > > What about this? > > > > > > http://wwwdevel2.postgresql.org > > > > > > This would maybe allow us to have at least the right menu on the documentation pages... > > > > Hey, now that works well. We could add the sidebars to all pages with that design - what do the rest of you guys think? > > > > I think this looks like it's about ready for primetime now Andreas - the only problems I could see are that the fontsare still smaller than we now use on the site, and on the mirrors page, 'We think this mirrors are near you:' shouldprobably read 'We think this mirrors is near you:'. The preselected mirror should probably also be centered in thepage. > > > > How will that mirror code work on the mirrors? > > > > Regards, Dave. > > > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > > TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space map settings > -- > Build A Brighter Lamp :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL -- LetzPlay.de | Freemail: http://www.letzplay.de/mail | Forenhosting: http://www.letzplay.de/foren
Mit freundlichen Grüßen Andreas Grabmüller ----- Original-Nachricht ----- Von: "Robert Treat" <xzilla@users.sourceforge.net> An: Dave Page <dpage@vale-housing.co.uk> CC: webmaster@letzplay.de, pgsql-www@postgresql.org Datum: Monday, September 29, 2003 09:30 PM Betreff: [pgsql-www] Status update > Can we align the middle / main section to span as far right as the > middle/top section? otherwise seems ok to me. > > Robert Treat > > On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 03:26, Dave Page wrote: > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Andreas Grabmüller [mailto:webmaster@letzplay.de] > > > Sent: 21 September 2003 21:47 > > > To: xzilla@users.sourceforge.net; webmaster@letzplay.de; Dave > > > Page; pgsql-www@postgresql.org > > > Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] Status update > > > > > > > > > What about this? > > > > > > http://wwwdevel2.postgresql.org > > > > > > This would maybe allow us to have at least the right menu on the documentation pages... > > > > Hey, now that works well. We could add the sidebars to all pages with that design - what do the rest of you guys think? > > > > I think this looks like it's about ready for primetime now Andreas - the only problems I could see are that the fontsare still smaller than we now use on the site, and on the mirrors page, 'We think this mirrors are near you:' shouldprobably read 'We think this mirrors is near you:'. The preselected mirror should probably also be centered in thepage. > > > > How will that mirror code work on the mirrors? > > > > Regards, Dave. > > > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > > TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space map settings > -- > Build A Brighter Lamp :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL -- LetzPlay.de | Freemail: http://www.letzplay.de/mail | Forenhosting: http://www.letzplay.de/foren
I'm not sure what you mean? For me it looks that way... Mit freundlichen Grüßen Andreas Grabmüller ----- Original-Nachricht ----- Von: "Robert Treat" <xzilla@users.sourceforge.net> An: Dave Page <dpage@vale-housing.co.uk> CC: webmaster@letzplay.de, pgsql-www@postgresql.org Datum: Monday, September 29, 2003 09:30 PM Betreff: [pgsql-www] Status update > Can we align the middle / main section to span as far right as the > middle/top section? otherwise seems ok to me. > > Robert Treat > > On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 03:26, Dave Page wrote: > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Andreas Grabmüller [mailto:webmaster@letzplay.de] > > > Sent: 21 September 2003 21:47 > > > To: xzilla@users.sourceforge.net; webmaster@letzplay.de; Dave > > > Page; pgsql-www@postgresql.org > > > Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] Status update > > > > > > > > > What about this? > > > > > > http://wwwdevel2.postgresql.org > > > > > > This would maybe allow us to have at least the right menu on the documentation pages... > > > > Hey, now that works well. We could add the sidebars to all pages with that design - what do the rest of you guys think? > > > > I think this looks like it's about ready for primetime now Andreas - the only problems I could see are that the fontsare still smaller than we now use on the site, and on the mirrors page, 'We think this mirrors are near you:' shouldprobably read 'We think this mirrors is near you:'. The preselected mirror should probably also be centered in thepage. > > > > How will that mirror code work on the mirrors? > > > > Regards, Dave. > > > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > > TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space map settings > -- > Build A Brighter Lamp :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL -- LetzPlay.de | Freemail: http://www.letzplay.de/mail | Forenhosting: http://www.letzplay.de/foren
Sorry for the garbage mail, seems I pressed enter too often ;) Mit freundlichen Grüßen Andreas Grabmüller ----- Original-Nachricht ----- Von: "Andreas Grabmüller" <webmaster@letzplay.de> An: dpage@vale-housing.co.uk, xzilla@users.sourceforge.net CC: webmaster@letzplay.de, pgsql-www@postgresql.org Datum: Monday, September 29, 2003 09:38 PM Betreff: [pgsql-www] Status update > I'm not sure what you mean? For me it looks that way... > > Mit freundlichen Grüßen > Andreas Grabmüller > > ----- Original-Nachricht ----- > Von: "Robert Treat" <xzilla@users.sourceforge.net> > An: Dave Page <dpage@vale-housing.co.uk> > CC: webmaster@letzplay.de, pgsql-www@postgresql.org > Datum: Monday, September 29, 2003 09:30 PM > Betreff: [pgsql-www] Status update > > > Can we align the middle / main section to span as far right as the > > middle/top section? otherwise seems ok to me. > > > > Robert Treat > > > > On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 03:26, Dave Page wrote: > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Andreas Grabmüller [mailto:webmaster@letzplay.de] > > > > Sent: 21 September 2003 21:47 > > > > To: xzilla@users.sourceforge.net; webmaster@letzplay.de; Dave > > > > Page; pgsql-www@postgresql.org > > > > Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] Status update > > > > > > > > > > > > What about this? > > > > > > > > http://wwwdevel2.postgresql.org > > > > > > > > This would maybe allow us to have at least the right menu on the documentation pages... > > > > > > Hey, now that works well. We could add the sidebars to all pages with that design - what do the rest of you guys think? > > > > > > I think this looks like it's about ready for primetime now Andreas - the only problems I could see are that the fontsare still smaller than we now use on the site, and on the mirrors page, 'We think this mirrors are near you:' shouldprobably read 'We think this mirrors is near you:'. The preselected mirror should probably also be centered in thepage. > > > > > > How will that mirror code work on the mirrors? > > > > > > Regards, Dave. > > > > > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > > > TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space map settings > > -- > > Build A Brighter Lamp :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL > > -- > LetzPlay.de > | Freemail: http://www.letzplay.de/mail > | Forenhosting: http://www.letzplay.de/foren -- LetzPlay.de | Freemail: http://www.letzplay.de/mail | Forenhosting: http://www.letzplay.de/foren