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IDENT and IPv6 (was Re: [GENERAL] pg_hba.conf change in 7.4)

От
Tom Lane
Дата:
[ moved to -hackers ]

Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> writes:
>> We are also wonder if there is a version of Ident server
>> that the PostgreSQL community knows that will work
>> with IPv6.

> That is the big question.  I would think Solaris ships with one, but
> maybe not.  Is 7.4/Solaris/ident not a workable combination?  Folks?

Has anyone tested our Ident support under IPv6 on *any* OS?

Right offhand I don't see anything in the RFC 1413 protocol that would
break in moving from IPv4 to IPv6, but that doesn't mean there isn't
anything.  One issue that catches my eye is that RFC 1413 assumes that
"port number" is a unique identifier of a connection within a particular
host; that assumption might be shaky in a system that's got multiple IP
addresses.  (In particular I wonder whether IPv4 and IPv6 will share a
common port number address space on a system handling both ...)
        regards, tom lane


Re: IDENT and IPv6 (was Re: [GENERAL] pg_hba.conf change in 7.4)

От
Kurt Roeckx
Дата:
On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 02:09:25PM -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
> [ moved to -hackers ]
> 
> Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> writes:
> >> We are also wonder if there is a version of Ident server
> >> that the PostgreSQL community knows that will work
> >> with IPv6.
> 
> > That is the big question.  I would think Solaris ships with one, but
> > maybe not.  Is 7.4/Solaris/ident not a workable combination?  Folks?
> 
> Has anyone tested our Ident support under IPv6 on *any* OS?
> 
> Right offhand I don't see anything in the RFC 1413 protocol that would
> break in moving from IPv4 to IPv6, but that doesn't mean there isn't
> anything.  One issue that catches my eye is that RFC 1413 assumes that
> "port number" is a unique identifier of a connection within a particular
> host; that assumption might be shaky in a system that's got multiple IP
> addresses.  (In particular I wonder whether IPv4 and IPv6 will share a
> common port number address space on a system handling both ...)

The tcp connection is two ip/port combinations.  The ident
connection should use the same ip address as the other end
connected too, and says which port numbers, so you know the combination.

I haven't tried it ident using postgresql, but I did for other
things and I know it works there.


Kurt



Re: IDENT and IPv6 (was Re: [GENERAL] pg_hba.conf

От
Seum-Lim Gan
Дата:
Hi,

The ident server we currently use is pidentd 3.0.16
from :
http://www.lysator.liu.se/ or
ftp://ftp.lysator.liu.se/pub/ident/servers

I am looking to see if Solaris has an ident server but have not
found it.

Gan

At 8:21 pm +0100 2003/12/6, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
>On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 02:09:25PM -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
>>  [ moved to -hackers ]
>>
>>  Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> writes:
>>  >> We are also wonder if there is a version of Ident server
>>  >> that the PostgreSQL community knows that will work
>>  >> with IPv6.
>>
>>  > That is the big question.  I would think Solaris ships with one, but
>>  > maybe not.  Is 7.4/Solaris/ident not a workable combination?  Folks?
>>
>>  Has anyone tested our Ident support under IPv6 on *any* OS?
>>
>>  Right offhand I don't see anything in the RFC 1413 protocol that would
>>  break in moving from IPv4 to IPv6, but that doesn't mean there isn't
>>  anything.  One issue that catches my eye is that RFC 1413 assumes that
>>  "port number" is a unique identifier of a connection within a particular
>>  host; that assumption might be shaky in a system that's got multiple IP
>>  addresses.  (In particular I wonder whether IPv4 and IPv6 will share a
>>  common port number address space on a system handling both ...)
>
>The tcp connection is two ip/port combinations.  The ident
>connection should use the same ip address as the other end
>connected too, and says which port numbers, so you know the combination.
>
>I haven't tried it ident using postgresql, but I did for other
>things and I know it works there.
>
>
>Kurt


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Re: IDENT and IPv6 (was Re: [GENERAL] pg_hba.conf

От
Kurt Roeckx
Дата:
On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 01:30:02PM -0600, Seum-Lim Gan wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> The ident server we currently use is pidentd 3.0.16

The only I could find in a short time was oidentd.  It says it
runs on Linux, *BSD and Solaris.  http://dev.ojnk.net/

I've been told that FreeBSD's inetd's internal identd supports it
too.


Kurt



Re: IDENT and IPv6 (was Re: [GENERAL] pg_hba.conf

От
Kurt Roeckx
Дата:
On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 01:30:02PM -0600, Seum-Lim Gan wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> The ident server we currently use is pidentd 3.0.16
> from :
> http://www.lysator.liu.se/ or
> ftp://ftp.lysator.liu.se/pub/ident/servers

The ChangeLog of it says: Solaris 8 (including IPv6) support
added.

But I have a feeling it's better supported in the 3.1 test
versions.


Kurt



Re: IDENT and IPv6 (was Re: [GENERAL] pg_hba.conf

От
Andrew Dunstan
Дата:

Kurt Roeckx wrote:

>On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 01:30:02PM -0600, Seum-Lim Gan wrote:
>  
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>The ident server we currently use is pidentd 3.0.16
>>from :
>>http://www.lysator.liu.se/ or
>>ftp://ftp.lysator.liu.se/pub/ident/servers
>>    
>>
>
>The ChangeLog of it says: Solaris 8 (including IPv6) support
>added.
>
>But I have a feeling it's better supported in the 3.1 test
>versions.
>
>  
>

3.0.16's KNOWNBUGS file says this:

* In general - wait for Pidentd 3.1 befor using it with IPv6 systems.

Of course, using ident for any sort of security mechanism is not good 
practice anyway, except possibly on the local host. Over a network it is 
totally untrustworthy.

cheers

andrew