Обсуждение: BLOB HOWTO??
Hi, Beeing very impressed by TOAST, I wonder how I can insert BLOB from a flat file. It seems quite easy with php; But how can I do it from psql?? TIA -- Olivier PRENANT Tel: +33-5-61-50-97-00 (Work) Quartier d'Harraud Turrou +33-5-61-50-97-01 (Fax) 31190 AUTERIVE +33-6-07-63-80-64 (GSM) FRANCE Email: ohp@pyrenet.fr ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Make your life a dream, make your dream a reality. (St Exupery)
Hi Bruce, Any idea when it's due for?? I've been thining about writing a user function; But I'll get stuck with permission as a user function is running under the "postgres" or whatever user instead of the calling user. Also, what kind of binary interface are you thinking of?? Regards,On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, Bruce Momjian wrote: > No way. We haven't written a binary interface to TOAST yet. > > > Hi, > > > > Beeing very impressed by TOAST, I wonder how I can insert BLOB from a flat > > file. > > > > It seems quite easy with php; But how can I do it from psql?? > > > > TIA > > > > -- > > Olivier PRENANT Tel: +33-5-61-50-97-00 (Work) > > Quartier d'Harraud Turrou +33-5-61-50-97-01 (Fax) > > 31190 AUTERIVE +33-6-07-63-80-64 (GSM) > > FRANCE Email: ohp@pyrenet.fr > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Make your life a dream, make your dream a reality. (St Exupery) > > > > > > > -- Olivier PRENANT Tel: +33-5-61-50-97-00 (Work) Quartier d'Harraud Turrou +33-5-61-50-97-01 (Fax) 31190 AUTERIVE +33-6-07-63-80-64 (GSM) FRANCE Email: ohp@pyrenet.fr ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Make your life a dream, make your dream a reality. (St Exupery)
El Dom 28 Ene 2001 16:59, Olivier PRENANT escribió: > > Beeing very impressed by TOAST, I wonder how I can insert BLOB from a flat > file. > > It seems quite easy with php; But how can I do it from psql?? I think you mean that it seems easy, because I haven't been able to understand it (always talking about the php way). I can't understand how the pg module of php knows where the large object should be inserted. I mean, what if I have 2 large objects in the same database (or even in the same table), where is the data inserted? There is no place where someone tells php that the data in this variable should go in this column that is of type blob. TIA -- System Administration: It's a dirty job, but someone told I had to do it. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Martín Marqués email: martin@math.unl.edu.ar Santa Fe - Argentina http://math.unl.edu.ar/~martin/ Administrador de sistemas en math.unl.edu.ar -----------------------------------------------------------------
> Hi Bruce, > > Any idea when it's due for?? > I've been thining about writing a user function; But I'll get stuck with > permission as a user function is running under the "postgres" or whatever > user instead of the calling user. > > Also, what kind of binary interface are you thinking of?? Lack of large object support for new TOAST columns is going to be a big 7.1 complaint. I was thinking of using the same functions as our large object stuff, but remove the OID requirement. -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 853-3000+ If your life is a hard drive, | 830 Blythe Avenue + Christ can be your backup. | Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania19026
> Hi Bruce, > > Any idea when it's due for?? When? Probably not until 7.2, which is a pain. -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 853-3000+ If your life is a hard drive, | 830 Blythe Avenue + Christ can be your backup. | Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania19026
Bruce, Thanks for replying (I know you're a busy man :) Any chance to have it backported to 7.1 or maybe in contrib??? This is a feature w all gonna lack (with GiST...) Regards, On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > Hi Bruce, > > > > Any idea when it's due for?? > > I've been thining about writing a user function; But I'll get stuck with > > permission as a user function is running under the "postgres" or whatever > > user instead of the calling user. > > > > Also, what kind of binary interface are you thinking of?? > > Lack of large object support for new TOAST columns is going to be a big > 7.1 complaint. I was thinking of using the same functions as our large > object stuff, but remove the OID requirement. > > -- Olivier PRENANT Tel: +33-5-61-50-97-00 (Work) Quartier d'Harraud Turrou +33-5-61-50-97-01 (Fax) 31190 AUTERIVE +33-6-07-63-80-64 (GSM) FRANCE Email: ohp@pyrenet.fr ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Make your life a dream, make your dream a reality. (St Exupery)
I would LOVE to see it in a minor 7.1.X release. > Bruce, > > Thanks for replying (I know you're a busy man :) > > Any chance to have it backported to 7.1 or maybe in contrib??? > > This is a feature w all gonna lack (with GiST...) > > Regards, > On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > Hi Bruce, > > > > > > Any idea when it's due for?? > > > I've been thining about writing a user function; But I'll get stuck with > > > permission as a user function is running under the "postgres" or whatever > > > user instead of the calling user. > > > > > > Also, what kind of binary interface are you thinking of?? > > > > Lack of large object support for new TOAST columns is going to be a big > > 7.1 complaint. I was thinking of using the same functions as our large > > object stuff, but remove the OID requirement. > > > > > > -- > Olivier PRENANT Tel: +33-5-61-50-97-00 (Work) > Quartier d'Harraud Turrou +33-5-61-50-97-01 (Fax) > 31190 AUTERIVE +33-6-07-63-80-64 (GSM) > FRANCE Email: ohp@pyrenet.fr > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Make your life a dream, make your dream a reality. (St Exupery) > > -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 853-3000+ If your life is a hard drive, | 830 Blythe Avenue + Christ can be your backup. | Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania19026
Bruce Momjian wrote: > > I would LOVE to see it in a minor 7.1.X release. It's *feature* with alot necessary coding in core functionality below heap access methods. Not a good candidate for a bugfix release. Jan > > > > Bruce, > > > > Thanks for replying (I know you're a busy man :) > > > > Any chance to have it backported to 7.1 or maybe in contrib??? > > > > This is a feature w all gonna lack (with GiST...) > > > > > Regards, > > On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > > > Hi Bruce, > > > > > > > > Any idea when it's due for?? > > > > I've been thining about writing a user function; But I'll get stuck with > > > > permission as a user function is running under the "postgres" or whatever > > > > user instead of the calling user. > > > > > > > > Also, what kind of binary interface are you thinking of?? > > > > > > Lack of large object support for new TOAST columns is going to be a big > > > 7.1 complaint. I was thinking of using the same functions as our large > > > object stuff, but remove the OID requirement. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Olivier PRENANT Tel: +33-5-61-50-97-00 (Work) > > Quartier d'Harraud Turrou +33-5-61-50-97-01 (Fax) > > 31190 AUTERIVE +33-6-07-63-80-64 (GSM) > > FRANCE Email: ohp@pyrenet.fr > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Make your life a dream, make your dream a reality. (St Exupery) > > > > > > -- > Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us > pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 853-3000 > + If your life is a hard drive, | 830 Blythe Avenue > + Christ can be your backup. | Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania 19026 > -- #======================================================================# # It's easier to get forgiveness for being wrong than for being right. # # Let's break this rule - forgive me. # #================================================== JanWieck@Yahoo.com # _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Bruce Momjian wrote: > > Hi Bruce, > > > > Any idea when it's due for?? > > When? Probably not until 7.2, which is a pain. We cannot use TOAST as is for BLOB/CLOB storage with a binary IO interface over fastpath. The reason is that you cannot force a column to be moved off anyway and that the toast reference contains the original objects size. Thus, opening a BLOB for writing would require the reference in the main tuple to get updatedand maybe moving off the data first. My plans for 7.2 are to use the toast table for storage, but to build new data types with support hooks in the toasterfor it. Jan -- #======================================================================# # It's easier to get forgiveness for being wrong than for being right. # # Let's break this rule - forgive me. # #================================================== JanWieck@Yahoo.com # _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Olivier PRENANT wrote: > Hi Bruce, > > Any idea when it's due for?? > I've been thining about writing a user function; But I'll get stuck with > permission as a user function is running under the "postgres" or whatever > user instead of the calling user. > > Also, what kind of binary interface are you thinking of?? Something similar to the existing lo_...() functions. Actually, someone should use the existing large objects to deal with binary content. What has to be kept in mindis 1. You have to cleanup yourself - the existing large objects aren't removed automatically if you delete a tablerow referencing to the LO or drop the table. 2. The existing LOs don't have copy behaviour. So if you reference to a LO from one table and do an INSERT... SELECT, just it's OID is copied, not the data (as it should be IMHO). Jan -- #======================================================================# # It's easier to get forgiveness for being wrong than for being right. # # Let's break this rule - forgive me. # #================================================== JanWieck@Yahoo.com # _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
I'm interested by TOAST, and I have asked several questions on the subject... I haven't tested them yet... First I thought that the type bytea allows storing of binary data, a BSOB (Binary Small OBject). Secondly that by using a binary cursor you have access to the raw data as it is stored in the database, but not as it is presented in ASCII Thridly we could use a funtion to retreive parts of columns, something like mid(column,start,length) Fourthly we may use the same function for storing data back. Cheers... Franck@sopac.org Jan Wieck wrote: > Olivier PRENANT wrote: > > Hi Bruce, > > > > Any idea when it's due for?? > > I've been thining about writing a user function; But I'll get stuck with > > permission as a user function is running under the "postgres" or whatever > > user instead of the calling user. > > > > Also, what kind of binary interface are you thinking of?? > > Something similar to the existing lo_...() functions. > > Actually, someone should use the existing large objects to > deal with binary content. What has to be kept in mind is > > 1. You have to cleanup yourself - the existing large objects > aren't removed automatically if you delete a table row > referencing to the LO or drop the table. > > 2. The existing LOs don't have copy behaviour. So if you > reference to a LO from one table and do an INSERT ... > SELECT, just it's OID is copied, not the data (as it > should be IMHO). > > Jan > > -- > > #======================================================================# > # It's easier to get forgiveness for being wrong than for being right. # > # Let's break this rule - forgive me. # > #================================================== JanWieck@Yahoo.com # > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com