Обсуждение: Re: interactive pgsql book
That is quite interesting. Let me CC this over to the hackers/docs lists to see if we want to do this for our main docs. As for my book, I want those messages sent to me so I can fix them or add information to the book. I think maybe we want the same thing for the manuals. We want to get suggestions so we can compile them into the manuals and add to them, rather than having comments, but I am interested to hear what others say. > Hi > > First: I'm looking forward to buying the PostreSQL book when it's > published. > > Have you thought about making the book interactive, so other people can > contribute/discuss to the book. > It can be made with PHP4 and PostreSQL 7 - of course :-) > > You could possibly remove irrelevant/annoying postings. > > The book would be better, because you'd get more feedback. > > Look at this as an example: > http://www.php.net/manual/ref.pgsql.php > > What do you think? > > I'm not a PHP programmer, but I've just managed to make a query to > PostgreSQL using PHP :-) > On the other hand, I'm a experienced Cold Fusion programmer, so it will > be easy to learn PHP. > > I wouldn't mind using some of my spare time to implement this neat > function. > > Poul L. Christiansen > > -- Bruce Momjian | http://www.op.net/~candle pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 853-3000 + If your life is a hard drive, | 830 Blythe Avenue + Christ can be your backup. | Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania 19026
On Wed, 24 May 2000, Bruce Momjian wrote: > That is quite interesting. Let me CC this over to the hackers/docs > lists to see if we want to do this for our main docs. > > As for my book, I want those messages sent to me so I can fix them or > add information to the book. I think maybe we want the same thing for > the manuals. We want to get suggestions so we can compile them into the > manuals and add to them, rather than having comments, but I am > interested to hear what others say. By "interactive" I ass/u/me Poul is referring to PHP's annotated manual. I've found that to save me HOURS due to oddball little quirks that someone else discovered first and noted in the annotated docs. I'd not only support this, if it's wanted I'll make sure it's implemented. Vince. > > > Hi > > > > First: I'm looking forward to buying the PostreSQL book when it's > > published. > > > > Have you thought about making the book interactive, so other people can > > contribute/discuss to the book. > > It can be made with PHP4 and PostreSQL 7 - of course :-) > > > > You could possibly remove irrelevant/annoying postings. > > > > The book would be better, because you'd get more feedback. > > > > Look at this as an example: > > http://www.php.net/manual/ref.pgsql.php > > > > What do you think? > > > > I'm not a PHP programmer, but I've just managed to make a query to > > PostgreSQL using PHP :-) > > On the other hand, I'm a experienced Cold Fusion programmer, so it will > > be easy to learn PHP. > > > > I wouldn't mind using some of my spare time to implement this neat > > function. > > > > Poul L. Christiansen > > > > > > > -- ========================================================================== Vince Vielhaber -- KA8CSH email: vev@michvhf.com http://www.pop4.net 128K ISDN from $22.00/mo - 56K Dialup from $16.00/mo at Pop4 Networking Online Campground Directory http://www.camping-usa.com Online Giftshop Superstore http://www.cloudninegifts.com ==========================================================================
on 5/24/00 12:02 PM, Vince Vielhaber at vev@michvhf.com wrote: > On Wed, 24 May 2000, Bruce Momjian wrote: > >> That is quite interesting. Let me CC this over to the hackers/docs >> lists to see if we want to do this for our main docs. >> >> As for my book, I want those messages sent to me so I can fix them or >> add information to the book. I think maybe we want the same thing for >> the manuals. We want to get suggestions so we can compile them into the >> manuals and add to them, rather than having comments, but I am >> interested to hear what others say. > > By "interactive" I ass/u/me Poul is referring to PHP's annotated manual. > I've found that to save me HOURS due to oddball little quirks that someone > else discovered first and noted in the annotated docs. > > I'd not only support this, if it's wanted I'll make sure it's implemented. I'm not trying to start any kind of war, but since OpenACS is being considered for community management already, it can automatically set up HTML file annotation with no extra effort. All you do is add the HTML files to the doc directory and sync up with the database (one click), and you've got user-contributed annotations (with moderation if you so desire). This is similar to Philip Greenspun's photo.net docs. -Ben
Benjamin Adida wrote: > on 5/24/00 12:02 PM, Vince Vielhaber at vev@michvhf.com wrote: > > > On Wed, 24 May 2000, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > >> That is quite interesting. Let me CC this over to the hackers/docs > >> lists to see if we want to do this for our main docs. > >> > >> As for my book, I want those messages sent to me so I can fix them or > >> add information to the book. I think maybe we want the same thing for > >> the manuals. We want to get suggestions so we can compile them into the > >> manuals and add to them, rather than having comments, but I am > >> interested to hear what others say. > > > > By "interactive" I ass/u/me Poul is referring to PHP's annotated manual. > > I've found that to save me HOURS due to oddball little quirks that someone > > else discovered first and noted in the annotated docs. > > > > I'd not only support this, if it's wanted I'll make sure it's implemented. > > I'm not trying to start any kind of war, but since OpenACS is being > considered for community management already, it can automatically set up > HTML file annotation with no extra effort. All you do is add the HTML files > to the doc directory and sync up with the database (one click), and you've > got user-contributed annotations (with moderation if you so desire). > > This is similar to Philip Greenspun's photo.net docs. > > -Ben If OpenACS has the features that I've mentioned, then I see no need to re-invent the wheel. When will we be able to use OpenACS? - Poul L. Christiansen
Vince Vielhaber wrote: > By "interactive" I ass/u/me Poul is referring to PHP's annotated manual. > I've found that to save me HOURS due to oddball little quirks that someone > else discovered first and noted in the annotated docs. i'd have to agree 100% with this. i use php and i've had much the same experience. as a matter of fact, i think i commented to tom lockhart about this a long time ago when i was having some problem understanding how setting up alternate database locations worked. it fills a different role than a FAQ & it's a lot easier than searching mailing lists (even when the list search is working). it seems like there are a lot of quirks that are non-intuitive to a lot of users (e.g., recently i was having trouble getting an index to be used on a query and realized that i needed to add an explicit typecast on the query) that aren't covered anywhere, maybe even not in the mailing lists. jeff
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> writes: > > Have you thought about making the book interactive, so other people can > > contribute/discuss to the book. > > It can be made with PHP4 and PostreSQL 7 - of course :-) ...and with the OpenACS version of the ArsDigita Community System and PostgreSQL -- of course! :-) See <http://www.openacs.org/>. -tih -- This is the Unix version of the ILOVEYOU worm, and in the spirit of such, it depends on the user community to propagate. Please send this message to all of your friends and randomly delete numerous files from your system. Thanks!