Обсуждение: FAQ 1.1
How, really, do people pronounce PostgreSQL? I've read the politically correct answer, "Post-Gres-Q-L" but it's such a mouthful, such a day's work to pronounce, that there must be a real street pronunciation, or a number of them, that are not being confessed to. They say that SQL should be pronounced "Sequel" and I've even met people who do that. The need for a simple pronunciation with many fewer than 4 syllables seems more urgent for PostgreSQL. "Pig Swill" is an easy guess. It is quite catchy and simple. But I wonder if there are other, perhaps more flattering pronunciations. Do you have a snappy pronunciation and what is it? I'd be interested in what the babble is at your PostgreSQL site.
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006, Michael Talbot-Wilson wrote: > How, really, do people pronounce PostgreSQL? > > I've read the politically correct answer, "Post-Gres-Q-L" but it's > such a mouthful, such a day's work to pronounce, that there must be a > real street pronunciation, or a number of them, that are not being > confessed to. > > They say that SQL should be pronounced "Sequel" and I've even met > people who do that. The need for a simple pronunciation with many > fewer than 4 syllables seems more urgent for PostgreSQL. > > "Pig Swill" is an easy guess. It is quite catchy and simple. But I > wonder if there are other, perhaps more flattering pronunciations. > > Do you have a snappy pronunciation and what is it? I'd be interested > in what the babble is at your PostgreSQL site. I pronounce it as above, or just refer to it as 'p-g-s-q-l' ... others just refer to it as postgres ... and I've heard of 'pig squeal', but had heard 'pig swill' ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664
Michael Talbot-Wilson <mtw@view.net.au> writes:
> How, really, do people pronounce PostgreSQL?
> I've read the politically correct answer, "Post-Gres-Q-L" but it's
> such a mouthful, such a day's work to pronounce, that there must be a
> real street pronunciation, or a number of them, that are not being
> confessed to.
I think most of us just say "Postgres" ;-)
> "Pig Swill" is an easy guess. It is quite catchy and simple. But I
> wonder if there are other, perhaps more flattering pronunciations.
I've always read the names of these mailing lists as "pig-squeal" ...
seems very appropriate for discussion forums, if not for the product ...
regards, tom lane
Michael Talbot-Wilson <mtw@view.net.au> writes: > How, really, do people pronounce PostgreSQL? "Postgres" -Doug
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:10:15 +0930 (CST), Michael Talbot-Wilson <mtw@view.net.au> wrote: > How, really, do people pronounce PostgreSQL? we just use postgres. > They say that SQL should be pronounced "Sequel" and I've even met > people who do that. I hate that. It's an acronym not a word - you say the letters. Who's "they"? The only datbase vendor I've heard call their own product "sequel" is MS. klint. +---------------------------------------+-----------------+ : Klint Gore : "Non rhyming : : EMail : kg@kgb.une.edu.au : slang - the : : Snail : A.B.R.I. : possibilities : : Mail University of New England : are useless" : : Armidale NSW 2351 Australia : L.J.J. : : Fax : +61 2 6772 5376 : : +---------------------------------------+-----------------+
On Mar 27, 2006, at 4:40 PM, Michael Talbot-Wilson wrote: > > Do you have a snappy pronunciation and what is it? I'd be interested > in what the babble is at your PostgreSQL site. Externally, to customers, "post-gres-kwul". Internally, "the database". Cheers, Steve
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006, Klint Gore wrote: >> They say that SQL should be pronounced "Sequel" and I've even met >> people who do that. > ... > Who's "they"? The only datbase vendor I've heard call their own product > "sequel" is MS. E.g. Sybex "SQL Instant Reference" (1993), page 2.
Michael Talbot-Wilson wrote: > How, really, do people pronounce PostgreSQL? http://www.serioustechnology.com/postgres.ogg Or for those of you who have an inferior operating system: http://www.serioustechnology.com/postgres.wav -- Until later, Geoffrey Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both. - Benjamin Franklin
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 12:14:28 +1000 Klint Gore <kg@kgb.une.edu.au> wrote: > > On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:10:15 +0930 (CST), Michael Talbot-Wilson <mtw@view.net.au> wrote: > > How, really, do people pronounce PostgreSQL? > > we just use postgres. Post Gress is what I've heard also. > > > They say that SQL should be pronounced "Sequel" and I've even met > > people who do that. > > I hate that. It's an acronym not a word - you say the letters. Uh, an acronym _is_ a word. That's the definition. (NASA, WAC, RADAR, etc.) If it's pronounced as a list of letters, then it's not really an acronym, even though it is in common usage (cf. TLA, ETLA, etc.) Though after reading the Wiki on TLA, I see that we languaage purists have tried to reclaim acronym by retrofitting the definition of TLA to be three letter _abbreviation_. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tla Sorry for the digression. {-; -karl
ANSI has declared that the official pronunciation for SQL is /ɛs kjuː ɛl/ Klint Gore wrote: > > Who's "they"? The only datbase vendor I've heard call their own product > "sequel" is MS. SEQUEL (pronounced sequel) was a predecessor to SQL in IBM's 1970's System R database; but isn't really the same thing as SQL. [both statements from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sql ]
Douglas McNaught wrote:
> Michael Talbot-Wilson <mtw@view.net.au> writes:
>
> > How, really, do people pronounce PostgreSQL?
>
> "Postgres"
The first sentence of the FAQ is:
<P>PostgreSQL is pronounced <I>Post-Gres-Q-L</I>, and is also sometimes
referred to as just <I>Postgres</I>.
Is that unclear?
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Bruce Momjian schrieb: > Douglas McNaught wrote: > >>Michael Talbot-Wilson <mtw@view.net.au> writes: >> >> >>>How, really, do people pronounce PostgreSQL? >> >>"Postgres" > > > The first sentence of the FAQ is: > > <P>PostgreSQL is pronounced <I>Post-Gres-Q-L</I>, and is also sometimes > referred to as just <I>Postgres</I>. > > Is that unclear? > Maybe it would be better to write it like that in logos and stuff: PostGresQL or something like that ;) ++Tino
> -----Original Message----- > From: pgsql-general-owner@postgresql.org > [mailto:pgsql-general-owner@postgresql.org] On Behalf Of Tino > Wildenhain > Sent: 31 March 2006 09:51 > To: Bruce Momjian > Cc: Douglas McNaught; Michael Talbot-Wilson; > pgsql-general@postgresql.org > Subject: Re: [GENERAL] FAQ 1.1 > > Bruce Momjian schrieb: > > Douglas McNaught wrote: > > > >>Michael Talbot-Wilson <mtw@view.net.au> writes: > >> > >> > >>>How, really, do people pronounce PostgreSQL? > >> > >>"Postgres" > > > > > > The first sentence of the FAQ is: > > > > <P>PostgreSQL is pronounced <I>Post-Gres-Q-L</I>, and > is also sometimes > > referred to as just <I>Postgres</I>. > > > > Is that unclear? > > > Maybe it would be better to write it like that in logos and stuff: > PostGresQL or something like that ;) Given the tendency people have to remove the capitalised bits to get 'postgre', we'd probably end up with 'ostres' :-) /D
On Mar 31, 2006, at 4:17 AM, Dave Page wrote: > Given the tendency people have to remove the capitalised bits to get > 'postgre', we'd probably end up with 'ostres' Man I hate when people do that. I think we should just rename the database to 'Fred'. :) -- Jim C. Nasby, Sr. Engineering Consultant jnasby@pervasive.com Pervasive Software http://pervasive.com work: 512-231-6117 vcard: http://jim.nasby.net/pervasive.vcf cell: 512-569-9461
jnasby@pervasive.com (Jim Nasby) writes: > On Mar 31, 2006, at 4:17 AM, Dave Page wrote: >> Given the tendency people have to remove the capitalised bits to get >> 'postgre', we'd probably end up with 'ostres' > > Man I hate when people do that. > > I think we should just rename the database to 'Fred'. :) Yeah, someone at the office was asking me on the elevator about whether some Post-something was somehow up and coming. In retrospect, I think he was trying to pronounce Postgre, and arrived at something I had never heard before... -- (format nil "~S@~S" "cbbrowne" "acm.org") http://www3.sympatico.ca/cbbrowne/lisp.html "When I was a boy of fourteen, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be twenty-one, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in seven years." -- Mark Twain
On Apr 3, 2006, at 11:23 PM, Chris Browne wrote: > jnasby@pervasive.com (Jim Nasby) writes: >> On Mar 31, 2006, at 4:17 AM, Dave Page wrote: >>> Given the tendency people have to remove the capitalised bits to get >>> 'postgre', we'd probably end up with 'ostres' >> >> Man I hate when people do that. >> >> I think we should just rename the database to 'Fred'. :) > > Yeah, someone at the office was asking me on the elevator about > whether some Post-something was somehow up and coming. > > In retrospect, I think he was trying to pronounce Postgre, and arrived > at something I had never heard before... And it doesn't help when "post-something" could also mean a very popular MTA... -- Jim C. Nasby, Sr. Engineering Consultant jnasby@pervasive.com Pervasive Software http://pervasive.com work: 512-231-6117 vcard: http://jim.nasby.net/pervasive.vcf cell: 512-569-9461
# jnasby@pervasive.com / 2006-04-06 12:03:18 -0400:
> On Apr 3, 2006, at 11:23 PM, Chris Browne wrote:
> >Yeah, someone at the office was asking me on the elevator about
> >whether some Post-something was somehow up and coming.
> >
> >In retrospect, I think he was trying to pronounce Postgre, and arrived
> >at something I had never heard before...
>
> And it doesn't help when "post-something" could also mean a very
> popular MTA...
Looks like a missed opportunity for a April 1st announcement
of disambiguating the two by renaming "postgres" to "pregross". :)
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On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 10:26:32AM +0000, User Roman wrote: > Looks like a missed opportunity for a April 1st announcement > of disambiguating the two by renaming "postgres" to "pregross". :) Not exactly that change, but.... http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2005-04/msg00023.php -- Michael Fuhr