Обсуждение: windows distribution
Is there windows distribution of PostgreSQL? I recieve contradictory information :-) Some people say there is, some there isn't. So, is there? I've been browsing www.postresql.org (http://www.postgresql.org/mirrors-ftp.html), but I don't seem to find a windows binary distribution... If there is one, where can I download it? -- Pozdrav/Regards, Nikola [Nick] Skoric. "...Usne, tice-rugalice - a u oku tajac Da sam kaput sa dva lica, da sam Gospo'n Propalica..." http://newusers.cjb.net/ - site o Usenetu na hrvatskom!
--- Nikola Skoric <nick-news@net4u.hr> wrote: > Is there windows distribution of PostgreSQL? I > recieve contradictory > information :-) Some people say there is, some there > isn't. So, is > there? I've been browsing www.postresql.org > (http://www.postgresql.org/mirrors-ftp.html), but I > don't seem to find a > windows binary distribution... If there is one, > where can I download it? > There is no native Windows version of PostgreSQL, yet. Plenty of people use Cygwin emulation to run PostgreSQL on Windows. Reports are that it runs well enough, but doesn't scale too well. There also exists a beta (proof of concept?) port of PostgreSQL 7.2 by PeerDirect. This is reported to work pretty well, but is not supported by the PostgreSQL development group. You can read more about these options at http://techdocs.postgresql.org . A native Windows port is being actively developed at present. No-one knows when it will be completed, but we hope it will be ready for the next release, maybe another four to six months. > -- > Pozdrav/Regards, Nikola [Nick] Skoric. > "...Usne, tice-rugalice - a u oku tajac > Da sam kaput sa dva lica, da sam Gospo'n > Propalica..." > http://newusers.cjb.net/ - site o Usenetu na > hrvatskom! > > ---------------------------(end of > broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 9: the planner will ignore your desire to choose > an index scan if your > joining column's datatypes do not match __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/
On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 12:11:51 -0800 (PST), Jeff Eckermann <jeff_eckermann@yahoo.com> wrote: > > --- Nikola Skoric <nick-news@net4u.hr> wrote: >> Is there windows distribution of PostgreSQL? I >> recieve contradictory >> information :-) Some people say there is, some there >> isn't. So, is >> there? I've been browsing www.postresql.org >> (http://www.postgresql.org/mirrors-ftp.html), but I >> don't seem to find a >> windows binary distribution... If there is one, >> where can I download it? >> > > There is no native Windows version of PostgreSQL, yet. > Plenty of people use Cygwin emulation to run > PostgreSQL on Windows. Reports are that it runs well > enough, but doesn't scale too well. There also exists > a beta (proof of concept?) port of PostgreSQL 7.2 by > PeerDirect. This is reported to work pretty well, but > is not supported by the PostgreSQL development group. > You can read more about these options at > http://techdocs.postgresql.org . > > A native Windows port is being actively developed at > present. No-one knows when it will be completed, but > we hope it will be ready for the next release, maybe > another four to six months. > >> -- >> Pozdrav/Regards, Nikola [Nick] Skoric. >> "...Usne, tice-rugalice - a u oku tajac >> Da sam kaput sa dva lica, da sam Gospo'n >> Propalica..." >> http://newusers.cjb.net/ - site o Usenetu na >> hrvatskom! >> >> ---------------------------(end of >> broadcast)--------------------------- >> TIP 9: the planner will ignore your desire to choose >> an index scan if your >> joining column's datatypes do not match > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. > http://photos.yahoo.com/ > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 9: the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if > your > joining column's datatypes do not match This question appears to have been posted to the lists pretty much every other day lately. Perhaps this information needs to be more prominently displayed on the front page of the site: perhaps a box containing logos for all major platforms linking either directly to the Downloads page or to more information on using PostgreSQL on that platform. I reckon that would do the trick. -- Russell Brown
A good indicator of the demand that there is for a native Win32 port. I know it's already in the works, but I think that the upswing in popularity of PG will be huge once the port is complete. Whether you love or loath Windows, it's hard to ignore the potential market share for a project like PG. IMHO it's one of the keys to the success of MySQL, but I won't dredge up that ol' chestnut. Cheers T. 'Opinions Are Like Navels, Everybody Has One!' Russ Brown wrote: > On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 12:11:51 -0800 (PST), Jeff Eckermann > <jeff_eckermann@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> >> --- Nikola Skoric <nick-news@net4u.hr> wrote: >> >>> Is there windows distribution of PostgreSQL? I >>> recieve contradictory >>> information :-) Some people say there is, some there >>> isn't. So, is >>> there? I've been browsing www.postresql.org >>> (http://www.postgresql.org/mirrors-ftp.html), but I >>> don't seem to find a >>> windows binary distribution... If there is one, >>> where can I download it? >>> >> >> There is no native Windows version of PostgreSQL, yet. >> Plenty of people use Cygwin emulation to run >> PostgreSQL on Windows. Reports are that it runs well >> enough, but doesn't scale too well. There also exists >> a beta (proof of concept?) port of PostgreSQL 7.2 by >> PeerDirect. This is reported to work pretty well, but >> is not supported by the PostgreSQL development group. >> You can read more about these options at >> http://techdocs.postgresql.org . >> >> A native Windows port is being actively developed at >> present. No-one knows when it will be completed, but >> we hope it will be ready for the next release, maybe >> another four to six months. >> >>> -- >>> Pozdrav/Regards, Nikola [Nick] Skoric. >>> "...Usne, tice-rugalice - a u oku tajac >>> Da sam kaput sa dva lica, da sam Gospo'n >>> Propalica..." >>> http://newusers.cjb.net/ - site o Usenetu na >>> hrvatskom! >>> >>> ---------------------------(end of >>> broadcast)--------------------------- >>> TIP 9: the planner will ignore your desire to choose >>> an index scan if your >>> joining column's datatypes do not match >> >> >> >> __________________________________ >> Do you Yahoo!? >> New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. >> http://photos.yahoo.com/ >> >> ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- >> TIP 9: the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if >> your >> joining column's datatypes do not match > > > This question appears to have been posted to the lists pretty much > every other day lately. Perhaps this information needs to be more > prominently displayed on the front page of the site: perhaps a box > containing logos for all major platforms linking either directly to > the Downloads page or to more information on using PostgreSQL on that > platform. I reckon that would do the trick. >
Quoting "Tony (Unihost)" <tony@unihost.net>: > A good indicator of the demand that there is for a native Win32 port. I > know it's already in the works, but I think that the upswing in > popularity of PG will be huge once the port is complete. > > Whether you love or loath Windows, it's hard to ignore the potential > market share for a project like PG. IMHO it's one of the keys to the > success of MySQL, but I won't dredge up that ol' chestnut. > > Cheers > > T. > > 'Opinions Are Like Navels, Everybody Has One!' > > > Russ Brown wrote: > > > On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 12:11:51 -0800 (PST), Jeff Eckermann > > <jeff_eckermann@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > >> > >> --- Nikola Skoric <nick-news@net4u.hr> wrote: > >> > >>> Is there windows distribution of PostgreSQL? I > >>> recieve contradictory > >>> information :-) Some people say there is, some there > >>> isn't. So, is > >>> there? I've been browsing www.postresql.org > >>> (http://www.postgresql.org/mirrors-ftp.html), but I > >>> don't seem to find a > >>> windows binary distribution... If there is one, > >>> where can I download it? > >>> > >> > >> There is no native Windows version of PostgreSQL, yet. > >> Plenty of people use Cygwin emulation to run > >> PostgreSQL on Windows. Reports are that it runs well > >> enough, but doesn't scale too well. There also exists > >> a beta (proof of concept?) port of PostgreSQL 7.2 by > >> PeerDirect. This is reported to work pretty well, but > >> is not supported by the PostgreSQL development group. > >> You can read more about these options at > >> http://techdocs.postgresql.org . > >> > >> A native Windows port is being actively developed at > >> present. No-one knows when it will be completed, but > >> we hope it will be ready for the next release, maybe > >> another four to six months. > >> > >>> -- > >>> Pozdrav/Regards, Nikola [Nick] Skoric. > >>> "...Usne, tice-rugalice - a u oku tajac > >>> Da sam kaput sa dva lica, da sam Gospo'n > >>> Propalica..." > >>> http://newusers.cjb.net/ - site o Usenetu na > >>> hrvatskom! > >>> > >>> ---------------------------(end of > >>> broadcast)--------------------------- > >>> TIP 9: the planner will ignore your desire to choose > >>> an index scan if your > >>> joining column's datatypes do not match > >> > >> > >> > >> __________________________________ > >> Do you Yahoo!? > >> New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. > >> http://photos.yahoo.com/ > >> > >> ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > >> TIP 9: the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if > >> your > >> joining column's datatypes do not match > > > > > > This question appears to have been posted to the lists pretty much > > every other day lately. Perhaps this information needs to be more > > prominently displayed on the front page of the site: perhaps a box > > containing logos for all major platforms linking either directly to > > the Downloads page or to more information on using PostgreSQL on that > > platform. I reckon that would do the trick. > > > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command > (send "unregister YourEmailAddressHere" to majordomo@postgresql.org) > I'm not familiar with the cygwin environment but is there something about that is turning off users to using it to run PG? It seems to me we should be seeing *more* ports about how PG is performing on cygwin instead of questions about a native port- especially from new users. -- Keith C. Perry, MS E.E. Director of Networks & Applications VCSN, Inc. http://vcsn.com ____________________________________ This email account is being host by: VCSN, Inc : http://vcsn.com
On Monday 22 December 2003 08:16 am, Keith C. Perry wrote: > I'm not familiar with the cygwin environment but is there something about > that is turning off users to using it to run PG? > > It seems to me we should be seeing *more* ports about how PG is performing > on cygwin instead of questions about a native port- especially from new > users. The problem is not so much Cygwin as the platform it runs on. It is Unix emulation on Windows and therefore is only as stable as the version of Windows you are using. I have run Postgres using Cygwin on various Win9x versions. The Cygwin installer makes the process easy to do. The problem is that it doesn't take much to load down the system. Also, given the frequency with which Win9X versions crash you spend alot of time waiting for the database to come up again. All in all it was more productive to move Postgres to a dedicated Linux server. -- Adrian Klaver aklaver@comcast.net
On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Adrian Klaver wrote: > On Monday 22 December 2003 08:16 am, Keith C. Perry wrote: > > > I'm not familiar with the cygwin environment but is there something about > > that is turning off users to using it to run PG? > > > > It seems to me we should be seeing *more* ports about how PG is performing > > on cygwin instead of questions about a native port- especially from new > > users. > > The problem is not so much Cygwin as the platform it runs on. It is Unix > emulation on Windows and therefore is only as stable as the version of > Windows you are using. I have run Postgres using Cygwin on various Win9x > versions. The Cygwin installer makes the process easy to do. The problem is > that it doesn't take much to load down the system. Also, given the frequency > with which Win9X versions crash you spend alot of time waiting for the > database to come up again. All in all it was more productive to move Postgres > to a dedicated Linux server. But please note that if one had a reliable winxp/2k class box that would probably be much more reliable. But it would still be much slower than linux on the same hardware.
Quoting "scott.marlowe" <scott.marlowe@ihs.com>: > On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Adrian Klaver wrote: > > > On Monday 22 December 2003 08:16 am, Keith C. Perry wrote: > > > > > I'm not familiar with the cygwin environment but is there something > about > > > that is turning off users to using it to run PG? > > > > > > It seems to me we should be seeing *more* ports about how PG is > performing > > > on cygwin instead of questions about a native port- especially from new > > > users. > > > > The problem is not so much Cygwin as the platform it runs on. It is Unix > > emulation on Windows and therefore is only as stable as the version of > > Windows you are using. I have run Postgres using Cygwin on various Win9x > > versions. The Cygwin installer makes the process easy to do. The problem is > > > that it doesn't take much to load down the system. Also, given the > frequency > > with which Win9X versions crash you spend alot of time waiting for the > > database to come up again. All in all it was more productive to move > Postgres > > to a dedicated Linux server. > > But please note that if one had a reliable winxp/2k class box that would > probably be much more reliable. But it would still be much slower than > linux on the same hardware. > > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster > Personally, I think the only real reason to port PG to windows **is** for marketing/advocacy reason. I don't use windows for anything major in my company- just the accounting box *grin* (actually, that IS pretty major so I guess I'm a liar *laff*). The thing I was trying to get at (since as someone pointed out this question about a windows port comes up about 3 times a month) is whether people are using cygwin to run and then asking for a port or are people simply asking for a port. We all know how much people hate to read but Russell hit it on the head. Speaking strickly from an ad & m (advocacy and marketing) point of view we should probably have something on the main web site and on the FTP mirrors that point people over to the relevant documentation. Some user comments might be in order too. -- Keith C. Perry, MS E.E. Director of Networks & Applications VCSN, Inc. http://vcsn.com ____________________________________ This email account is being host by: VCSN, Inc : http://vcsn.com