Обсуждение: What CASE tools and clients for Postgres?
Hi, everybody! I am a programmer with the 12-years experience in COBOL and FoxPro under Unix environment. Postgres seems to me as a good choice for step toward web apps, ERP, CRM, e-business/commerce, etc. I have red many articles about Postgres but I am still not sure: 1. What is the recommended tool from design of business processes and data model, e.g. what CASE tool is the best for porting logical schema to Postgres (if any is directly applicable); 2. What is the best client tool with a good GUI for Unix/Linux, and what is for Windows/NT environment? Thanks in advance for any advice, web link or book title. Milorad Poluga
Aren't Nassi-Schneiderman diagrams primarily for describing control flow, not data modelling? The examples here, for example, allow creation of a NS diagram and then generated the relevant C or Pascal code. Thanks for the links anyhow, they may well come in useful. On 6 Jun 2001 02:38:33 -0700, lobet_romuald@my-deja.com (Romuald Lobet) wrote: >Hi Milorad, > >Searching for powerful CASE Tools ? > >I contacted two researchers about this question: >Ike Nassi and Ben Schneiderman. > >They developped a new kind of diagrams. Here is their reply about CASE >Tools related to NASSI-SCHNEIDERMAN DIAGRAMS. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >From: Ike Nassi and Ben Scheiderman >cc: >Subject: RE: Nassi-Shneiderman Diagrams > > > >I've been traveling... but here are a few recent web sites that may >help... > > >Ben Shneiderman >Dept of Computer Science >Univ of Maryland >College Park, MD 20742 www.cs.umd.edu/hcil > > >Nassi-Shneiderman on the Web >http://www.rdrop.com/~cary/html/psd.html > > >Here's a new piece of software to do NSD > > http://href.com/SCODER:0 > >I wish I could keep track of all the NSD work.. >the guy who was going to do a website did a small one and has a brief >tutorial > >http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Way/4748/nsd_home.html > > >Our original paper is at > >http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Way/4748/nsd.html > >There is a neat Java applet to make NSD on the web at >http://www2.informatik.uni-e >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >More powerful CASE Tools and development environment: > >MID INNOVATOR (WIN/UNIX) (b.cramer@mid.de) >I-LOGIX RHAPSODY (WIN/UNIX) >SIP-SoftwareLösung WINGESY (WIN16) http://www.sip.by.to/ >SPARXSYSTEMS ENTERPRISEARCHITECT (WIN32) >www.sparxsystems.com.au > >I hope this helps. > >Regards, > >R. Lobet
Hi Milorad, Searching for powerful CASE Tools ? I contacted two researchers about this question: Ike Nassi and Ben Schneiderman. They developped a new kind of diagrams. Here is their reply about CASE Tools related to NASSI-SCHNEIDERMAN DIAGRAMS. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ike Nassi and Ben Scheiderman cc: Subject: RE: Nassi-Shneiderman Diagrams I've been traveling... but here are a few recent web sites that may help... Ben Shneiderman Dept of Computer Science Univ of Maryland College Park, MD 20742 www.cs.umd.edu/hcil Nassi-Shneiderman on the Web http://www.rdrop.com/~cary/html/psd.html Here's a new piece of software to do NSD http://href.com/SCODER:0 I wish I could keep track of all the NSD work.. the guy who was going to do a website did a small one and has a brief tutorial http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Way/4748/nsd_home.html Our original paper is at http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Way/4748/nsd.html There is a neat Java applet to make NSD on the web at http://www2.informatik.uni-e ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- More powerful CASE Tools and development environment: MID INNOVATOR (WIN/UNIX) (b.cramer@mid.de) I-LOGIX RHAPSODY (WIN/UNIX) SIP-SoftwareLösung WINGESY (WIN16) http://www.sip.by.to/ SPARXSYSTEMS ENTERPRISEARCHITECT (WIN32) www.sparxsystems.com.au I hope this helps. Regards, R. Lobet
hello Milorad, Our tool, DeZign for databases can be used for data modeling. Dezign for databases is a database development tool using an entity relationship diagram. It visually supports the lay out of the entities and relations and automatically generates SQL schemas for PostgreSQL databases. At the moment only available as a win32 application. You can download an evaluation version from http://www.datanamic.com regards Rick van Dijk Datanamic Milorad Poluga schreef: > Hi, everybody! > I am a programmer with the 12-years experience in COBOL and FoxPro under > Unix environment. > Postgres seems to me as a good choice for step toward web apps, ERP, CRM, > e-business/commerce, etc. I have red many articles about Postgres but I am > still not sure: > 1. What is the recommended tool from design of business processes and data > model, e.g. what CASE tool is the best for porting logical schema to > Postgres (if any is directly applicable); > 2. What is the best client tool with a good GUI for Unix/Linux, and what is > for Windows/NT environment? > Thanks in advance for any advice, web link or book title. > Milorad Poluga
Sam Staton <sam.staton@bigfoot.com> wrote in message > Aren't Nassi-Schneiderman diagrams primarily for describing control > flow, not data modelling? Hi Sam, That's right. Sorry, my know-how about Postgres is poor. Note that INNOVATOR (MID) and RHAPSODY (I-LOGIX) are able to manage about data modeling. Also, I think SW and DATA must be considered in the same design. Not sure INNOVATOR and RHAPSODY are compatible with Postgres, however. Romuald.
Sam Staton <sam.staton@bigfoot.com> wrote in message > Aren't Nassi-Schneiderman diagrams primarily for describing control > flow, not data modelling? Hi Sam, That's right. Sorry, my know-how about Postgres is poor. Note that INNOVATOR (MID) and RHAPSODY (I-LOGIX) are able to manage about data modeling. Also, I think SW and DATA must be considered in the same design. Not sure INNOVATOR and RHAPSODY are compatible with Postgres, however. Romuald.
Aren't Nassi-Schneiderman diagrams primarily for describing control flow, not data modelling? The examples here, for example, allow creation of a NS diagram and then generated the relevant C or Pascal code. Thanks for the links anyhow, they may well come in useful. On 6 Jun 2001 02:38:33 -0700, lobet_romuald@my-deja.com (Romuald Lobet) wrote: >Hi Milorad, > >Searching for powerful CASE Tools ? > >I contacted two researchers about this question: >Ike Nassi and Ben Schneiderman. > >They developped a new kind of diagrams. Here is their reply about CASE >Tools related to NASSI-SCHNEIDERMAN DIAGRAMS. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >From: Ike Nassi and Ben Scheiderman >cc: >Subject: RE: Nassi-Shneiderman Diagrams > > > >I've been traveling... but here are a few recent web sites that may >help... > > >Ben Shneiderman >Dept of Computer Science >Univ of Maryland >College Park, MD 20742 www.cs.umd.edu/hcil > > >Nassi-Shneiderman on the Web >http://www.rdrop.com/~cary/html/psd.html > > >Here's a new piece of software to do NSD > > http://href.com/SCODER:0 > >I wish I could keep track of all the NSD work.. >the guy who was going to do a website did a small one and has a brief >tutorial > >http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Way/4748/nsd_home.html > > >Our original paper is at > >http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Way/4748/nsd.html > >There is a neat Java applet to make NSD on the web at >http://www2.informatik.uni-e >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >More powerful CASE Tools and development environment: > >MID INNOVATOR (WIN/UNIX) (b.cramer@mid.de) >I-LOGIX RHAPSODY (WIN/UNIX) >SIP-SoftwareLösung WINGESY (WIN16) http://www.sip.by.to/ >SPARXSYSTEMS ENTERPRISEARCHITECT (WIN32) >www.sparxsystems.com.au > >I hope this helps. > >Regards, > >R. Lobet
Hi Milorad, Searching for powerful CASE Tools ? I contacted two researchers about this question: Ike Nassi and Ben Schneiderman. They developped a new kind of diagrams. Here is their reply about CASE Tools related to NASSI-SCHNEIDERMAN DIAGRAMS. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ike Nassi and Ben Scheiderman cc: Subject: RE: Nassi-Shneiderman Diagrams I've been traveling... but here are a few recent web sites that may help... Ben Shneiderman Dept of Computer Science Univ of Maryland College Park, MD 20742 www.cs.umd.edu/hcil Nassi-Shneiderman on the Web http://www.rdrop.com/~cary/html/psd.html Here's a new piece of software to do NSD http://href.com/SCODER:0 I wish I could keep track of all the NSD work.. the guy who was going to do a website did a small one and has a brief tutorial http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Way/4748/nsd_home.html Our original paper is at http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Way/4748/nsd.html There is a neat Java applet to make NSD on the web at http://www2.informatik.uni-e ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- More powerful CASE Tools and development environment: MID INNOVATOR (WIN/UNIX) (b.cramer@mid.de) I-LOGIX RHAPSODY (WIN/UNIX) SIP-SoftwareLösung WINGESY (WIN16) http://www.sip.by.to/ SPARXSYSTEMS ENTERPRISEARCHITECT (WIN32) www.sparxsystems.com.au I hope this helps. Regards, R. Lobet