Re: Using postgresql.org account as an auth id on third partywebsites

On 9/23/19 6:09 PM, Álvaro Hernández wrote:
> 
> 
> On 23/9/19 9:28, Stefan Kaltenbrunner wrote:
>> On 9/23/19 2:20 PM, Álvaro Hernández wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 23/9/19 10:26, Dave Page wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 10:45 PM Álvaro Hernández <aht@ongres.com 
>>>> <mailto:aht@ongres.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     On 21/9/19 12:32, Stefan Kaltenbrunner wrote:
>>>>     > On 9/20/19 3:14 AM, Álvaro Hernández wrote:
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >
>>>>     > [...]
>>>>     >
>>>>     >>> Oh, and as a general rule, "requesting" unpaid volunteers to
>>>>     do work
>>>>     >>> for you for free is in general not a great way to get them
>>>>     >>> enthusiastic about helping out.
>>>>     >>      Did I do so? I don't recall where or when I said that.
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >>      Irrespective of this: what you say I read as:
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >> - Either volunteers, due to being unpaid, are not doing their 
>>>> job
>>>>     >> correctly (completely);
>>>>     > tbh as one of those volunteers, I kinda find it pretty
>>>>     irritating that
>>>>     > that the very first time somebody asks for community auth being
>>>>     opened
>>>>     > to non-pginfra managed sites an association of "us" not doing
>>>>     our job
>>>>     > correctly comes up just because that feature does not (and/or 
>>>> is not
>>>>     > implemented in the way you want it) do like.
>>>>
>>>>          TBQH, I'm having a really hard time to understand how this
>>>>     conclusion could be derived from my words.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's exactly what I've inferred from your emails, and clearly I'm 
>>>> not alone :-(
>>>
>>>      In between this sentence you are replying to, and the next one, 
>>> there was this one which you removed from your response:
>>>
>>> "For the avoidance of doubt: Stefan, and any other pg-infra volunteer 
>>> or anyone else how felt bad about my words: my deepest and most 
>>> sincere apology. I never, under any circumstance, intended to do any 
>>> negative statement about the job done or the team itself. I have a 
>>> great deal of respect to any kind of volunteering in general, let 
>>> alone for the one on helping on the technology that I love. I have 
>>> volunteered tons of work on Postgres myself, and I cannot otherwise 
>>> that feel in the same page. pg-infra: I know the work that you do and 
>>> have done, and I really appreciate it, specially given how small team 
>>> you are."
>>>
>>>      The fact that you are still replying to the above sentence with 
>>> the paragraph that follows removed, means that either:
>>>
>>> * you didn't read it (in which case, please do);
>>
>> have you ever considered that dave just wanted to express that he had 
>> similiar feelings to what I had - simply claiming he didn't read your 
>> apology seems like a weird interpretation...
> 
>      Have you ever considered accepting, or even thanking, my apologies?
> 
>      Or at least, tell me if they are not enough for you.

The appology is for sure enough and I do accept it - thanks for saying that!




regards

Stefan