RE: row filtering for logical replication

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
On Saturday, December 18, 2021 10:33 AM
> On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 5:29 PM Greg Nancarrow <gregn4422@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 7:20 PM Ajin Cherian <itsajin@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 5:46 PM Greg Nancarrow <gregn4422@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > So using the v47 patch-set, I still find that the UPDATE above results in
> publication of an INSERT of (2,1), rather than an UPDATE of (1,1) to (2,1).
> > > > This is according to the 2nd UPDATE rule below, from patch 0003.
> > > >
> > > > + * old-row (no match)    new-row (no match)  -> (drop change)
> > > > + * old-row (no match)    new row (match)     -> INSERT
> > > > + * old-row (match)       new-row (no match)  -> DELETE
> > > > + * old-row (match)       new row (match)     -> UPDATE
> > > >
> > > > This is because the old row (1,1) doesn't match the UPDATE filter "(a>1)",
> but the new row (2,1) does.
> > > > This functionality doesn't seem right to me. I don't think it can be
> assumed that (1,1) was never published (and thus requires an INSERT rather than
> UPDATE) based on these checks, because in this example, (1,1) was previously
> published via a different operation - INSERT (and using a different filter too).
> > > > I think the fundamental problem here is that these UPDATE rules assume
> that the old (current) row was previously UPDATEd (and published, or not
> published, according to the filter applicable to UPDATE), but this is not
> necessarily the case.
> > > > Or am I missing something?
> > >
> > > But it need not be correct in assuming that the old-row was part of
> > > a previous INSERT either (and published, or not published according
> > > to the filter applicable to an INSERT).
> > > For example, change the sequence of inserts and updates prior to the
> > > last update:
> > >
> > > truncate tbl1 ;
> > > insert into tbl1 values (1,5); ==> not replicated since insert and !
> > > (b < 2); update tbl1 set b = 1; ==> not replicated since update and
> > > ! (a > 1) update tbl1 set a = 2; ==> replicated and update converted
> > > to insert since (a > 1)
> > >
> > > In this case, the last update "update tbl1 set a = 2; " is updating
> > > a row that was previously updated and not inserted and not
> > > replicated to the subscriber.
> > > How does the replication logic differentiate between these two
> > > cases, and decide if the update was previously published or not?
> > > I think it's futile for the publisher side to try and figure out the
> > > history of published rows. In fact, if this level of logic is
> > > required then it is best implemented on the subscriber side, which
> > > then defeats the purpose of a publication filter.
> > >
> >
> > I think it's a concern, for such a basic example with only one row,
> > getting unpredictable (and even wrong) replication results, depending
> > upon the order of operations.
> >
> 
> I am not sure how we can deduce that. The results are based on current and
> new values of row which is what I think we are expecting here.
> 
> > Doesn't this problem result from allowing different WHERE clauses for
> > different pubactions for the same table?
> > My current thoughts are that this shouldn't be allowed, and also WHERE
> > clauses for INSERTs should, like UPDATE and DELETE, be restricted to
> > using only columns covered by the replica identity or primary key.
> >
> 
> Hmm, even if we do that one could have removed the insert row filter by the
> time we are evaluating the update. So, we will get the same result. I think the
> behavior in your example is as we expect as per the specs defined by the patch
> and I don't see any problem, in this case, w.r.t replication results. Let us see
> what others think on this?

I think it might not be hard to predict the current behavior. User only need to be
aware of that:
1) pubaction and row filter on different publications are combined with 'OR'.
2) FOR UPDATE, we execute the fiter for both OLD and NEW tuple and would change
   the operation type accordingly.

For the example mentioned:
create table tbl1 (a int primary key, b int);
create publication A for table tbl1 where (b<2) with(publish='insert');
create publication B for table tbl1 where (a>1) with(publish='update');

If we follow the rule 1) and 2), I feel we are able to predict the following
conditions:
--
WHERE (action = 'insert' AND b < 2) OR (action = 'update' AND a > 1)
--

So, it seems acceptable to me.

Personally, I think the current design could give user more flexibility to
handle some complex scenario. If user want some simple setting for publication,
they can also set same row filter for the same table in different publications.
To avoid confusion, I think we can document about these rules clearly.

BTW, From the document of IBM, I think IBM also support this kind of complex
condition [1].
[1] https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/idr/11.4.0?topic=rows-log-record-variables

Best regards,
Hou zj