On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 4:37 PM Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
> Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi> writes:
> > On 01/11/2019 01:50, Alexander Korotkov wrote:
> >> This happens so, because we're checking that there is no broken HOT
> >> chains after index creation by comparison pg_index.xmin and
> >> TransactionXmin. So, we check that pg_index.xmin is in the past for
> >> current transaction in lossy way by comparison just xmins. Attached
> >> patch changes this check to XidInMVCCSnapshot().
> >> With patch the issue is gone. My doubt about this patch is that it
> >> changes check with TransactionXmin to check with GetActiveSnapshot(),
> >> which might be more recent. However, query shouldn't be executer with
> >> older snapshot than one it was planned with.
>
> > Hmm. Maybe you could construct a case like that with a creative mix of
> > stable and volatile functions? Using GetOldestSnapshot() would be safer.
>
> I really wonder if this is safe at all.
>
> (1) Can we assume that the query will be executed with same-or-newer
> snapshot as what was used by the planner? There's no such constraint
> in the plancache, I'm pretty sure.
>
> (2) Is committed-ness of the index-creating transaction actually
> sufficient to ensure that none of the broken HOT chains it saw are
> a problem for the onlooker transaction? This is, at best, really
> un-obvious. Some of those HOT chains could involve xacts that were
> still not committed when the index build finished, I believe.
>
> (3) What if the index was made with CREATE INDEX CONCURRENTLY ---
> which xid is actually on the pg_index row, and how does that factor
> into (1) and (2)?
Thank you for pointing. I'll investigate these issues in detail.
> On the whole I don't find the risk/reward tradeoff of this looking
> promising. Even if it works reliably, I think the situations where
> it'll help a lot are a bit artificial.
I can't agree that these situations are artificial. For me, it seems
natural that user expects index to be visible once it's created.
Also, we always teach users that long-running transactions are evil,
but nevertheless they are frequent in real life. So, it doesn't seem
unlikely that one expects index to become visible, while long
transaction is running in parallel. This particular case was reported
by our customer. After investigation I was surprised how rare such
cases are reported...
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