Re: Improve checking for pg_index.xmin

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От Amit Kapila
Тема Re: Improve checking for pg_index.xmin
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Msg-id CAA4eK1LJBykOCAjxdTGvxCEfbsefx4cXHe1bu_ptkaRDPihBJw@mail.gmail.com
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Ответ на Re: Improve checking for pg_index.xmin  (Alexander Korotkov <a.korotkov@postgrespro.ru>)
Ответы Re: Improve checking for pg_index.xmin  (Alexander Korotkov <a.korotkov@postgrespro.ru>)
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On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 3:33 AM Alexander Korotkov
<a.korotkov@postgrespro.ru> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 4:37 PM Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
> > Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi> writes:
> > > On 01/11/2019 01:50, Alexander Korotkov wrote:
> > >> This happens so, because we're checking that there is no broken HOT
> > >> chains after index creation by comparison pg_index.xmin and
> > >> TransactionXmin.   So, we check that pg_index.xmin is in the past for
> > >> current transaction in lossy way by comparison just xmins.  Attached
> > >> patch changes this check to XidInMVCCSnapshot().
> > >> With patch the issue is gone.  My doubt about this patch is that it
> > >> changes check with TransactionXmin to check with GetActiveSnapshot(),
> > >> which might be more recent.  However, query shouldn't be executer with
> > >> older snapshot than one it was planned with.
> >
> > > Hmm. Maybe you could construct a case like that with a creative mix of
> > > stable and volatile functions? Using GetOldestSnapshot() would be safer.
> >
> > I really wonder if this is safe at all.
> >
> > (1) Can we assume that the query will be executed with same-or-newer
> > snapshot as what was used by the planner?  There's no such constraint
> > in the plancache, I'm pretty sure.
> >
> > (2) Is committed-ness of the index-creating transaction actually
> > sufficient to ensure that none of the broken HOT chains it saw are
> > a problem for the onlooker transaction?  This is, at best, really
> > un-obvious.  Some of those HOT chains could involve xacts that were
> > still not committed when the index build finished, I believe.
> >
> > (3) What if the index was made with CREATE INDEX CONCURRENTLY ---
> > which xid is actually on the pg_index row, and how does that factor
> > into (1) and (2)?
>
> Thank you for pointing.  I'll investigate these issues in detail.
>

Are you planning to work on this patch [1] for current CF?  If not,
then I think it is better to either move this to the next CF or mark
it as RWF.

[1] - https://commitfest.postgresql.org/27/2337/

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With Regards,
Amit Kapila.
EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com



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