Re: Feature request for adoptive indexes

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Peter Geoghegan
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Re: Feature request for adoptive indexes
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Feature request for adoptive indexes Hayk Manukyan <manukyantt@gmail.com>
Re: Feature request for adoptive indexes Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Feature request for adoptive indexes Hayk Manukyan <manukyantt@gmail.com>
Re: Feature request for adoptive indexes Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Feature request for adoptive indexes Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Re: Feature request for adoptive indexes Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Feature request for adoptive indexes Hayk Manukyan <manukyantt@gmail.com>
Re: Feature request for adoptive indexes Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Feature request for adoptive indexes Pavel Borisov <pashkin.elfe@gmail.com>
Re: Feature request for adoptive indexes Hayk Manukyan <manukyantt@gmail.com>
Re: Feature request for adoptive indexes Pavel Borisov <pashkin.elfe@gmail.com>
Re: Feature request for adoptive indexes Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Feature request for adoptive indexes Mark Dilger <mark.dilger@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Feature request for adoptive indexes Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Re: Feature request for adoptive indexes Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: Feature request for adoptive indexes Pavel Borisov <pashkin.elfe@gmail.com>
Re: Feature request for adoptive indexes Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Re: Feature request for adoptive indexes Hayk Manukyan <manukyantt@gmail.com>
Re: Feature request for adoptive indexes Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Feature request for adoptive indexes Pavel Borisov <pashkin.elfe@gmail.com>
Re: Feature request for adoptive indexes Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@enterprisedb.com>
Re: Feature request for adoptive indexes Hayk Manukyan <manukyantt@gmail.com>
Re: Feature request for adoptive indexes Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@enterprisedb.com>
On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 1:02 AM Pavel Borisov  wrote:
> AFAIK Gin is lossy for phrase queries as we don't store word position in the posting list. For purely logical queries, where position doesn't matter, it's not lossy.

GIN is always lossy, in the sense that it provides only a
gingetbitmap() routine -- there is no gingettuple() routine. I believe
that this is fundamental to the overall design of GIN. It would be
very difficult to add useful gingettuple() functionality now, since
GIN already relies on lossiness to avoid race conditions.

Here's an example of the problems that "adding gingettuple()" would
run into: Today, an index's pending list entries can be merged
concurrently with the entry tree, without worrying about returning the
same tuples twice. This is only safe/correct because GIN only supports
bitmap index scans. Without that, you need some other mechanism to
make it safe -- ISTM you must "logically lock" the index structure,
using ARIES/KVL style key value locks, or something along those lines.

-- 
Peter Geoghegan


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