Re: (Repeat.) Please give pgAdmin 4 its own GUI. The constantpassword inputs are driving me insane...

Hi

On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 12:58 PM richard coleman <rcoleman.ascentgl@gmail.com> wrote:

Dave, 

Thanks for helping to clear that up, I am sorry I misunderstood Khushboo's response.  As for running in desktop mode, I didn't think that was possible for quite some time.  I sure haven't been able to find out how to pull that off.  If you could explain, I would imagine I am not the only one who would like that opportunity.

You are running in desktop mode, otherwise you would see the login page when you first connect (and you wouldn't get the master password prompt). See https://www.pgadmin.org/docs/pgadmin4/4.11/getting_started.html (and the relevant child pages on Server and Desktop deployment)

Desktop vs. Server mode is not about the whether you access pgAdmin through a browser or not, but whether it's configured for running on a single user's desktop or on a web server that may be accessible to multiple users (or people who should not be using it at all; e.g. other people on the same LAN)

 

rik.

On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 4:45 AM Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org> wrote:

Hi

On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 8:50 PM richard coleman <rcoleman.ascentgl@gmail.com> wrote:

(sorry about the last missive - continued)

On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 3:38 PM richard coleman <rcoleman.ascentgl@gmail.com> wrote:

Darren,

On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 3:03 PM Darren Duncan <darren@darrenduncan.net> wrote:

Have you tried using more than one browser?
that's what I've taken to doing, I have a separate install of Chromium just for pgAdmin4.  I've even changed the browser command to 

 "chromium-browser %URL% " so that it starts with the right browser.

Although not all browsers are apparently equal.  Back on 2019-06-19 04:10:13 Khushboo Vashi <khushboo(dot)vashi(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote in response to an issue I was having under Chromium;

"I would suggest, try a different browser as well as Chromium is not the
supported browser for pgAdmin."

Which suggests that there is a supported browser for pgAdmin4.  This begs the question, if there's only a single supported browser, what exactly is the point of a web app?  It's like web sites that only worked correctly under IE6.

Don't mistake the phrasing there as an implication that there's only a single supported browser. Khushboo's first language is not English. 

We (the team at EDB, I can't speak for others) test on Chrome, Firefox, Safari, IE and Edge. For anyone using other browsers, the first step for us in diagnosing an issue is going to be to try to reproduce it on one of the browsers we test with. It's not feasible for us to test with everything that is out there.

 

Developing pgAdmin4 as a web app/web server thing might make sense from a development standpoint, but personally I think it introduces way more problems than it solves.

It certainly does cause some problems that we didn't have before, but it's proven itself to solve a lot more.

There's also the fact that running over the web is exactly what many people want these days. I would guesstimate that we probably see something like 50% of users we interact with running in web mode, and 50% in desktop mode. Download-wise, the number of container pulls is far outstripping the number of other downloads these days with Docker hub reporting > 10 million. All of those users are running in web mode as that's the only way the container runs, so it's clear that the web app architecture is the right thing for a significant number of users.

 

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